Summit Entertainment, the studio behind the uber-successful Twilight series, confirmed this morning that it has replaced Eclipse editor Art Jones with Nancy Richardson, the editor of Catherine Hardwicke’s original Twilight film. The studio is not placing blame on Jones, who previously worked with Eclipse director David Slade on his horror film 30 Days of Night as well as Slade’s Ellen Page-starrer Hard Candy. They do believe, however, that Slade’s material – which they call “very good” – needed a stronger edit. The studio has more confidence in Richardson, who they say understands the emotion of the characters and is an ace at balancing action with the other elements of the film.
Richardson recently completed Miley Cyrus’ upcoming romantic drama The Last Song. Eclipse is scheduled to debut on June 30.
Hopefully she doesn’t bring back some of the ridiculous close ups, poor overly fast done editing and the blue color palette from the original Twilight. I like how New Moon was done they should keep that feel.
Dude, it’s just the editing.
editing really can make or break a movie
“Just” the editing? Are you serious? Do you realize that dicking around with the editing can TOTALLY change how a film is paced, what action goes where, the mood, etc.? This is a VERY VERY big part of the film that they’re messing with at the last minute. After the actors, director and screenwriter, the editor is IT.
Twilight had a terrible editing. Maybe you need to be an editor or film student to see it, but it was a mess. What and aweful movie made worse by the poor editing.
Nancy was actually my digital editing professor at film school at UCLA.
Just editing… clearly you have no idea! As an editor i take great offense to that.
Editing really can make or break it. Twilight made it seem like they were instantly in love where in the book it took a few months. There were many pivotal scenes from the book left out.
I totally disagree. The big problem with Weitz’s “vision” for NM was that no one must have told him that the Cullens are supposed to be trying to pass as humans. The crack-den vampire look Weitz used was the worst part of NM. Both Edward and Bella looked at least 10 years older, and Ashley Green–OMG,they dressed her like a matronly aunt, and in clothing that didn’t fit. Her get-up in Italy was like they were channeling a 1960′s Audrey Hepburn movie. I actually like the blue tint–it gives an ethereal feel to Twiight. It was just bad from the beginning to end.
I AGREE!!!!!
I totally agree with you. Ashley Greene didn’t even look like herself…if I didn’t see her name in the opening credits, I would’ve wondered if it was her. They definitely looked like they aged 10 years instead of 6 months as in the story.
yeah, they totally dressed Alice like a Golden Girl.
I agree with your sentiment I love the blue tent as oppose to the brown almost old look.
I mean tint lol
I completly agree with you. The make up in New Moon was awful!! So overdone. How could they ever have begun to fit in at the High School when they looked like that. Also, I loved the blue look of the original film for exactly the same reason. It gave an unearthly quality to the gorgeous Pacific Northwest scenery and made you feel like something unexpected could happen. I also loved the score for the Twilight which was not like some overwrought French soap opera. I liked the more simplistic clean melodies that incorporated drums and instrumentation that suited the wilds of the Pacific northwest and the simple joy of first love. At least in Twilight we were spared the embarrasing spectacle of Bella and Edward running through a meadow in period get up. A good editor would have ditched that altogether. But it is the beautiful slow kiss scene in Bella’s bedroom which makes Twilight the better movie by far.
TWILIGHT was perfection. NMoon was ghastly. Hopefully Summit gets that now. The wonderful cast deserve a better film than NMoon but don’t know if Slade, who bashed TWILIGHT on Twitter before he was hired for Eclipse, can deliver a great film.
Twilight was way more romantic than New Moon. I liked the blue of the original – the new makeup is also overdone. New Moon was a huge commercial success but Hardwicke gets ALL the credit for capturing the feel of the book and creating the foundation for a mega hit series. So glad that they are bringing back at least 1 member from the original winning team.
Summit realizes that TWILIGHT was amazing and is probably now trying to recapture the magic that Catherine Hardwicke created. Good luck with that.
Probably didn’t tithe enough to Salt Lake City …
Rod, you’re an idiot.
Lisa, you’re a fool.
I agree
Maybe while they’re passing out pink slips, they could go ahead and write one up for Melissa Rosenberg and make an attempt to save Breaking Dawn.
Seriously. The woman should stick to Dexter and that’s that. Her scripts are garbage.
Here here.
Since I watched Twilight before I read the book, I have to disagree. It’s Meyer’s writing that is horrible. There is a good story there, but I can’t help but think how it would have turned out with a writer with more skill (How many times can you talk about Edward’s “granite” skin?) Twilight the movie was actually told better than the book on many levels, especially the reveal and James was introduced at the beginning instead of all of a sudden appearing towards the end. As for New Moon, there just wasn’t any helping it. It was the weakest of the books. Eclipse is my favorite…so I’m hoping they don’t mess it up!
Two words for ya, Nick: SPIDER. MONKEY.
Nick.. you liked Waylen Forge, the lack of blood typing, the whole MESS of what was supposed to be Bella and Edward falling in love? MR botched up so many important scenes in Twilight. The least of my worries was the dialogue to be honest. (Although I do agree that the dialogue is cheesy, I don’t think MR helps it AT ALL.. ever!)
HERE, HERE!!!! Couldn’t agree more!
Nick, I agree that Meyers will never win a Pullitzer, but she does one thing very well: she captures the feeling of a young woman in love for the first time. I see the Twilight series as basically a love story where the young woman’s first love is the ultimate outsider–he’s James Dean with fangs.
I actually liked Twiligt the best. NM is good. Eclipse–I almost didn’t finish Eclipse and read BD because it was like Bella had some debilitating disease so the men had to carry her around from place to place. I think Meyers must have been going through some overwhelming fantasies about being carried away in a rescue when she wrote Eclipse. NM–I could have done without reading that book. It was like Meyers was finished with the series after Eclipse but was contracted to write one more book, and so rushed from point to point. She introduced all these cool characters (like te Amazons!!) and gave zero backstory. And the total specialness and wonderfulness of Bella and Reneseme should have been accomponied with a pony of insulin.
Agree Nick. TWILIGHT was awesome. I saw it before I read the book. The film was the reason I read the four books. I couldn’t stand the NMoon film. Thought it was garbage. I love the actors, who were picked by Catherine Hardwicke, but they didn’t have a good director. Catherine’s film was magical. The rain soaked misty Forks was perfect, the Cullens looked white and different, all the actors shined in TWILIGHT, and the Carter Burwell score was amazing, the songs — all of it great. NMoon on the other hand was reddish brown choppy rushed yuk. I’ll skip Eclipse but see any Catherine Hardwicke film.
To Nick: no, SM will no be winning a Pulitzer, but she can draw you in like no writer and get you absorbed in the story and characters. A lot of people gripe that Bella was all consumed by Edward, but that is how it is for most teenage girls when they fall for the first time.
I liked the brownish tint. I know Bella is supposed to be pale, but with that bluish tint she looks positively ill. Not to mention, yes this series is about vampires, but NM was more about the wolves. Thats why it was brownish, cuz it was more earthy feeling. NM also finally got the meadow correct as well. The soundtrack for NM was well done, it fit the scenes and the feel of the movie. New Moon was so much better in so many ways. My only hope is that Eclipse can mesh the earthy wolves and the cold vamps. Hopefully it will be good.
Can Summit not listen to the fans that fund this franchise and actually care about how these films turn out? Fire MR now.
Like Chris Weitz said, at this point a chimp could direct these movies and the fans would still flock to the theaters…so, no. They don’t really care how these films turn out or how their decisions affect the end product because no matter what a gazillion fans will go see the movie
i agree with Heather2.
Summit better start listening to its fans. they’ve still got three movies left. the first was just ok (shame on Summit for destroying a good book), and the second film kinda sucked (shame on me for continuing to spend my money on it). but now, i really don’t think that i’m going to pay to see Eclipse. so if they want to keep their profits up, the better keep the viewers happy. this series has been badly written, they know it, yet for some reason they won’t change it.
Summit is clearly taking advantage of all the people who love the books and want to see it on the big screen. And at this point, Summit is in danger of losing that fanbase. nothing is guaranteed.
If only they would listen to us Heather. It’s getting ridiculous now. I’m praying for Eclipse to be saved from her.. whether by David Slade, Kristen, or Rob.
We all have our preferences, but I thought Twilight was so poorly done. The direction, editing, writing, everything was horribly meshed together. Rob and Kristen singlehandedly saved that film.
New Moon was much better, but what hurt it was the script and the rushing of the last thirty minutes of the film, which was the most important. Again not put together well. But the cinematography, the acting, and the special effects were well done, in my opinion.
I don’t think just editing is going to solve the problem. We need a new screenwriter, Summit. Please, the fans want a new screenwriter. I could careless what Joe Blow Twihater wants right now.
I kind of agree with Observer. As mean as it sounds, Twilight fans DESERVE the films they get. Why? Because they (I’d say we but I have standards) would show up to ANY Twilight film, no matter how awful. Summit has no incentive to make the films better because they know people would see them anyway. Until the fans start speaking with their MONEY, Summit won’t get the hint. And for that, you can blame yourselves for giving so much money to an inferior product.
Observer, you’re right – BUT I hardly think any of the credible talent lending themselves to these movies (Chris Weitz, David Slade, for example) would personally put out anything less than their best.
Katie, I could not disagree with you more. So just because I support this cast no matter what, and go see these films multiple times mean that I don’t deserve a great film? That is not fair. I am not fourteen years old and just think Jacob looks good without his shirt. I want something decent and credible and a worthy adaptation of the books. We have supported this franchise with our money, we deserve something substantial in return.
I think it is great that you supposedly have “standards”, but so do I.
I think you misunderstood me. Yes, we all deserve great movies. But as long as we keep paying to see BAD movies, it means Summit won’t care about the quality. By going over and over again, you don’t give Summit ANY incentive to improve. They’ll improve when they get hit where it hurts: their pocketbooks. And until people start showing some tough love and boycotting this crap, then they shouldn’t complain when crap is what they get.
kitty~i couldn’t agree you more~atherine Hardwicke made a wonderful movie to explained how she love the story…I think the other director don’t have such love …
Oliver, when you read something Chris Weitz said about anything having to do with movies, realize that he is probably one of the worst directors presently afflicting movie-goers with his clueless directing.
His comment about TwiFans paying to see anything put out with the Twilight saga brand shows how clueless he is.
NM opened big–thanks to the terrific job Hardwicke did for Twlight–but numbers feel precipitusly. After 3-4 weeks, it was no longer being seen in my area.
Twilight was at our local theaters for months. That was because there were so many viewers who paid to see the movie multiple times. THOSE were the core Twilight fans.
Obviously, the core Twilight fans didn’t think NM was worth seing again. In fact, some of us think it was so bad that it is an indictment against Summit for its FAILED choices for the Twilight franchise.
With Twilght, there was good-quality merchandise all over the place. Not with NM. They’re selling a line at WalMart (OMG, what a tacky nightmare).
The kind of movie-goers Summit seems to be attempting to attract won’t bother to see the movie more than once, and certainly won’t buy any of the merchandise.
The proof will be in the Eclipse numbers when it’s released. I have no interest in seeing it, and many other Twilight fans feel the same way.
When will Summit ever listen to us? MR needs to go.
yep she ruins the books
I disagree about MelissaRosenburg!I think she has done a great job turning both books into screenplays!I think that Stephanie Myers’ writing prattles on and on! Her writing is so repetitive, with so much useless information. Twilight is by far the better of the two movies! Catherine Hardwicke seemed to care about every aspect of the story, whereas to Chris Wiez, it just seemed to be a job. I wouldn’t miss the remaining movies for anything! It’s the actors that have turned this movie franchise into what it is! They are simply spectacular at bringing their respective characters to life!
Amen brother
You can’t save something if the source material is terrible. The only way for Breaking Dawn to be even a tiny bit good is if they re-write the whole freakin’ book.
The BOOKS are terrible.
Celia, That is your opnion, not the millions of fans out there…The books are good, you just need to have emotions and imagination to understand where Stephanie is coming from….I agree that the film scripts could be better written, but I think every fan needs to sit back and think about the comments given on here….If you think the script is so bad (and I’m sure there are some experts out there!) why not write a sample script yourself and send it to Summit??!!! If you don’t like it, do something about it. If you don’t want to do something about it..STOP WHINGING!!!!
Celia’s favorite sport is finding her way to any and every Twilight post and trashing the series. I AM surprised she didn’t try to work Harry Potter into this somehow (yes, even though it has nothing to do with any of it).
Celia, you’re right. I love the story itself, but the writing was abysmal. It doesn’t mean either you or I have no emotion or imagination. It does mean we have taste.
Ambient…sorry, I know you like the series. I’m just stating my opinion. I’ve read the books, so I feel that I’m entitled.
@Nehnah: I have imagination, but the books do not. That’s why I don’t like them.
*lol* Nothing can save the disaster that was Breaking Dawn. Horrible book. Will look worse onscreen.
Here,here!! Off with her head!
I guess they realized that having anyone with talent on board was a bad idea. I can see where they’re coming from. Because Twilight was so much better than New Moon, and movies based on Nicholas Sparks books are always so good.
hehhhehehe
Anyone that would cast Miley Cyrus in a Nicholas Sparks movie should be shot!
And anyone who thinks Twilight is high quality has no room to trash either Miley Cyrus or Nicholas Sparks.
@Mary – I H A T E Nicholas Sparks books. I’m just not a fan of the way he writes, but the movies they make are entertaining.
Which brings me to my point about Twilight: A writers voice is hard to translate in video form.
I don’t think they have accurately translated Meyer’s voice in any of the Twilight movies and it is her voice that makes the books so wonderful to read, even though the writing is not exceptional.
After rewatching both Twilight and New Moon, I can say that New Moon is the better made film in terms of look, style, and polish, but I don’t like it as much as Twilight. Perhaps it’s just that I enjoy the first book more, but there’s something about the movie Twilight that grabs me and New Moon doesn’t.
It’s the first of the series. There’s always something special about it. Plus, New Moon was such a transitionary book. The love story that is Twilight will hopefully pick back up in the movie Eclipse, as it did in the book.
I completely agree. For me, the highlight of New Moon was all the scenes in Italy, and the way they handled Edward’s absence… the way they brought him back into the film made me notice how much it was missing without him in it, which mirrors the story itself a little, and it’s really Rob and Kristen that carry these movies. I’m glad they replaced the editor for Eclipse though, I know there’s been a lot of buzz on the web that there was so much focus on the action in terms of fight scenes that the love story, which is the foundation of it all, would be lost. Seemed like that’s what David Slade was trying to do, at least, to build an audience beyond the fanbase. That’s all fine and good but it’s not smart to alienate the fan base, either.
Are you kidding me? I thought New Moon was much better edited than Twilight. NM was warmer and that blue crap in Twilight was ridiculous.
Agreed. Completely.
The look and feel of a movie really has nothing to do with editing though. That is cinematography and tone and theme.
Twilight editing was awful. NM editing was awful as well. Both sucked. The core material is there, the actors are there, we just need better directors and screenwriters.
I actually liked the blue color palette in Twilight. I mean, it’s a vampire movie, vampires are supposed to look cold and blood thirsty. Changing editing or script or whatever won’t add anything. Summit should show support to its original team and stick to what made the success of Twilight or else people would keep on compraing and judging. There’s no way they’ll please everybody.
Despite the editing or whatever, Twilight was a great movie overall. On the other hand, New Moon was utterly boring, heavy and disappointing… BOTHERED!
Ha, ha…BOTHERED!!! Best comment yet!
The blue was inspired and was essential to the overall unearthly quality that made you believe something unique could happen there in the wilds of the gorgeous Pacific Northwest. I loved it!!
I thought Twilight was so much better than NMoon. I thought NMoon was garbage. The reddish brown color of the whole movie was so wrong for bloodless vampires, hello. The scenes were rushed, choppy, no passion, just bland. The Edward apparitions looked cheesy. On the other hand, Twilight had that fabulous rain soaked Forks atmosphere, the mist, the pale pale Cullens, the passionate scenes with Edward & Bella, the Cam Gigandet fight, Rachelle – all of it was fabulous, I thought. Have zero interest in Eclipse. Will pass on seeing that. Twilight is my fave, and Carter Burwell’s beautiful soundtrack, and the songs. It’s just a wonderful film. Hope Catherine H. directs BDawn.
The more I hear about Eclipse the more things worry me. This just sounds back. Apparently the cut they saw they did not like.
They need to fire MR so bad. I don’t know why they keep her around. I think it is known and agreed upon across the board that the screenplays for the Twilight movies suck so much a$$.
I meant to say “bad” not “back.”
I’m worried for Eclipse too. I think I, along with many other fans, have been very generously supporting this half-a$$ed movie versions of our beloved books – but I am NOT going to tolerate an effed up version of Eclipse! It was my favorite, has great movie potential (much more than the others), they have a huge budget, great director, and there’ just no room for mediocrity.
You’re worried about Eclipse? the fact that they can’t say anything definitive about ‘Breaking Dawn’ this late in the game after they shot the first 3 films in under 18 months, worries me more than anything. Summit is just too wrapped up in the money making potential of their studios first ‘Franchise’ to see that they had the opportunity to actually make decent films outta these books. They had talented young actors and semi decent directors. this is what happens when execs meddle too much and the wrong writer is attached to a project
I think they’re definitely dragging their feet with Breaking Dawn, but yes, I’m much more worried about Eclipse – simply because I liked that book best (Breaking Dawn kinda freaked me out, actually).
I think they’ve done a terribly poor job with making movies of this series, it could have been really, really good stuff. They’re great stories. That said, I did see improvement in New Moon over Twilight, and I hope that trend continues.
I couldn’t agree with you more, Eclipse does have a great movie potential. What’s up with the leaked Eclipse picture of Victoria and Riley holding Edward in a choke hold? I’ll be the first to admit I enjoyed the added fight scenes in New Moon and agree that there needed to be something physical added for the book to screen adaptation, but why make changes to an already physical (as opposed to mental power) fight?
I won’t be seeing BD in theater if MR has messed up Eclipse as much as she has Twilight and NM.
Yes! When will people wake and realize that when they grit their teeth and buy a ticket for a crap film, they’re ENABLING Summit and giving them the green light to make more crap? I just don’t understand how people can complain and complain and complain and then, when all’s said and done, will STILL pay good money to see the films. You said yourself, we’re propping up a half-ass franchise. What if one day we decided we weren’t going to settle for mediocrity anymore?
re:The Observer
I think Summit could have made better movies as well, but I wonder if it had more to do with SM controll over her “baby” so to speak. She has been very vocal about how the movies should come accross. Maybe had she listened to the experts more the franchise wouldn’t be so inconsistant. And I’m a big fan of the books BTW, and I love certain aspects of the two movies so far- they just don’t quite come together:(
Eclipse has a true natural as a director. Have you seen Hard Candy? The studio does not want Eclipse to seem like a horror movie over the teen fluff drama. The first cut was too harsh for the young kiddies. It was not studio friendly enough so they are bringing on board a new editor to soften the material not sharpen it. I love how Hollywood always seems to mislead the public with their crap.
Rashy, I agree. David Slade is an amazing director. But he is not studio friendly. I have a feeling that his version is not the kiddie friendly thing that they want to sell tickets. I on the one hand don’t mind it getting a little edgier, it definitely worked for the HP films, not that I’m comparing. But then on the other, Twilight is about the romance, it is a love story at it’s core, so it concerns me that DS would not focus on that as much. All I have heard is action this and action that.
Exactly. I respect Mr. Slade very much. He is a very talented director, and they are messing with his vision, which is not cool. Movie making is art in itself, and while it is important for Twilight series to stick close to source material, it is also important to give some artistic liberty to the director because nothing good in art can ever come from holding back. This kind of compromising can only backfire in the end. Also, I don’t mind more action sequences in the movie, it only amplifies the angst of the story, which is good. Eclipse requires fast pacing. That’s one of the reasons I didn’t like NM, the pacing was so off.
I think that this is not misleading. David Slade sad on his twitter that after the first screening he has to add more Edward in the movie. What are we suppose to think?
The cut they saw was probably a really good movie, and you know Summit can’t have quality taste with the Twilight Saga. *sigh*
I think it’s funny that the it was SO bad that even Summitt didn’t like it. That must tell you something.
I honestly don’t even remember what happens in the 3rd one. All of them are a whole lot of nothing. Waste of Paper.
Agreed. I enjoy the series overall, but I can’t understand how anyone could say the third one is their favorite. How? NOTHING happens! It’s Jacob and Edward in a pissing contest, Bella and Edward making goo eyes at each other, Bella telling Jacob to screw off, and a half-ass Victoria plot tacked on at the last minute to give the impression that the book actually had a plot.
i’m seriously hyperventilating right now! something is ickyyy with eclipse, the leaked script,no pics,tons of trailer clips, now they fire the editor, methinks scummit is scrambling to salvage their own mess…still keeping out hope it will all work out for the best and all the tweeking will be worth it!
i meant no tons of trailer clips!
@the observer…breaking dawn i prefer not to think about it,or i might have a nervous break down!!!!
i have to agree with Ambient Life.
for a moment there i got excited and thought that the headline said “Summit replaces screenwriter”…..but of course that’s not what it says.
If Summit wants to save this series, Melissa Rosenberg needs to be the next person to go.
First off, I can’t think of any other film series where replacing the editor would warrant a front-page news bulletin. But whatever.
I’ve kind of resigned myself to the fact that Eclipse is probably going to be awful, which sucks because it’s my favorite book of the four. I read MR’s leaked script and had to keep from retching in places. The first photos they released all looked like someone on speed had gone nuts with the saturation levels in Final Cut (i.e. they all look washed out). The one still from the fight scene looked like something out of a middle school cafeteria. They’re cynically holding the trailer to help their own film financially (because it worked so well with Bandslam). And now they sacked Slade’s in-house editor and replaced him with Hardwicke’s. Thing is, most of the people involved with the films have talent (on the crew, anyway). It’s like Summit thinks they can hire A-list talent and magically get an A-list project and it’s not working out that way.
And don’t even get me started on the Breaking Dawn fiasco. Is it two parts? Is it in 3D? When’s it coming out? Who’s directing? I guarantee that if Eclipse comes out looking as bad as it appears, few people will be left to care about BD.
Eclipse is probably going to follow the “rule of three” anyway and under-perform on New Moon at the box office, which is fine with me if it means giving Summit a wake-up call.
Now, Katie. I agree with everything you just said in that comment. Very well put. They have A list talent and are resting on that alone and it is not working out for them.
Breaking Dawn. I cringe when I even think about that being translated to film. Especially with MR at the helm. I am not looking forward to that, but only for the cast themselves. *shivers*
“A-list talent.” I’m assuming you’re talking about David Slade, because everyone else on those films are a bunch of talentless twats.
Melissa Rosenberg just can’t write. Even the episodes of Dexter that she’s written are the worst ones and it takes a lot to make Dexter bad.
I really wouldn’t even call David Slade “A-list” because his resume is not that impressive with the exception of one film (Hard Candy).
But to be honest, I don’t think Summitt cares about the quality of the film. The editor probably wanted to take out most of the shirtless Werewolf shots and the sparkly vampires stuff in an attempt to make the movie seemingly good (as good as twilight film can be) and Summitt intervened and told them to add more shirtless jacob and sparkly edward because that’s what the twilight fans want.
Am I the only one who thinks this thing is a disaster waiting to happen? Editing is serious business; it’s not like they’re replacing the caterer. If they’re not happy with the current cut’s editing, that’s a VERY serious matter. The sad thing is, the current cut is probably at least half-decent, but doesn’t fit into their preconceived mold. Combine that with a TERRIBLE script, no trailer or clips, really bad-looking photos (everyone looks like they’re in floodlights!) and just general Summit meddling and you have something rotten in Denmark.
Hence I have a solution. Too often I’ve seen and heard people complaining about how bad Twilight and New Moon were. I ask them if they’re seeing Eclipse, and they say, “Of course!” Those people — anyone who’d still see Eclipse after how bad the first two were — are IDIOTS. They complain about how Summit doesn’t care about the fans and how they don’t care about the movies’ quality. Well, DUH! Of course they don’t, because they know hardcore fans will see the films anyway. So here’s a radical idea. DON’T. If Summit sees sales receipts start to decline, maybe they’ll get the message. But if you whinge and moan about the first two and STILL plan on forking over cash for the train wreck that Eclipse is turning into, it’s your own damn fault. Summit makes crap because they can get away with it. Simple as that. And you’re LETTING THEM.
As much as I detest Summit and MR with the fury of a thousand suns, I still support this cast. They have worked and continue to work their tails off for these characters. It is not fair to them for me to ignor these films just to get BACK at Summit. I get your POV. I felt this way when they fired Rachelle, but at the same time I, along with many other adult Twilight fans, do not want to hurt the cast that work so hard to bring our favorite characters to life. I know that sounds all Kumbaya, but it is the truth.
Then don’t be surprised when all you get for your loyalty is a terrible set of films. You can “support the cast no matter what” and get a terrible film, or you can get tough with Summit and sit one of the films out until they get the message, and maybe get a BETTER film as a result. It looks like you can’t get both.
And I don’t think the cast really cares about this anymore. I don’t think any of them are really hurting for work outside of Twilight.
That’s fair enough. But don’t complain about how bad the films are when you keep seeing them and enabling Summit’s corner-cutting and greed.
Let me put it another way: Would Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter fans be this forgiving if their beloved series had been turned into films this bad? Somehow I don’t think so.
@Jennifer
Luckily for Harry Potter fans-
Warner Bros. doesn’t f up the HP movies.
They genuinely listen to the fans and though the movies aren’t PERFECT… compared to many film adaptations, are surprisingly good.
I agree. The films are terrible because Summit and all the filmmakers know that they don’t even have to put in any effort. All the little twilight fans are going to go see the movie anyways. They can just throw something together and it will make money. This is why twilight is just a fad that is gradually fading. The fans don’t even care enough about it to get upset when they’re given a sorry excuse for a film.
If WB or New Line tried that with HP,LOTR, or even Batman, they would have a serious uprising on their hands. Look at what happened when WB pushed HBP back 9 months, people lost their flippin’ minds.
Wouldn’t it be fun it they put out both versions and let the fans decide? You know, not the screaming tweeny girls, the REAL fans (us). heh
Jennifer, I agree about seeing a movie that is bad multiple times. I went to the second (2 AM) showing of NM because I knew I would be writing about it, and I don’t write from a place of ignorance. But I won’t see Eclipse, not with Slade directing it. For the love of God, did Summit not see 30 Days before they offered him the director’s chair? Anyway, I can see Twilight fans seeing the movie once, but if they hate the movie, then they shouldn’t see it more than once. I’ve read posts from fans who hated everything about the movie, but have seen it 3-4 times. As they say in politics, “vote with your pocketbook.” I think Summit got it when the mass numbers of people who saw Twilight 5 times just didn’t materialize for NM. But did they get it enough to make a difference in the ham-fisted way they’ve handled the Twilight franchise? Doubtful, but ever hopeful.
Can she please focus on the heart of the story: Edward and Bella? If I have to see more of Summit changing the storyline to pimp Taylor/Jacob then I won’t be continuing as a fan of the series.
I know right!
Edward and Bella are the heart of the story… not Failcob.
Summits just trying to get double eye candy to appeal to the teenyboppers lust… er I mean, eyes.
Don’t forget the cougar TwiMoms.
*shudders*
Isn’t it a little, uh, late to be changing editors? Especially when promotion is going to be ramping up? Seems kind of risky to me, but whatever.
I’m honestly not even sure I’ll see Eclipse in theaters. I think of myself as a fan and I saw the first two (New Moon multiple times), but I don’t want to give Scummit anymore money until they can produce a decent film. Call me disloyal, but Summit has shown that they couldn’t care less about my or other fan’s loyalty. So why should I support them?
To kind of add to what I said: This is NOT the film where Summit can really afford to stumble. For one thing, being the third film already has a built-in, precedent-based disadvantage (third films almost always drop in terms of BO, except for Bourne 3 and Return of the King).
Also, releasing it in the summer ensures much more competition. There are two fairly big July 4 films opening two days after Eclipse, plus a lot of holdovers like Iron Man and Toy Story. This isn’t a situation where Summit can afford to put out another bad film, because there WILL be other options and people likely WILL say enough is enough.
I say we all go watch the OTHER robert (downey jr) Kick ass in Iron Man 2!
Hey Summit, way to bury your previous editor in the press. Real bonehead manoeuvre. I know Art Jones, he’s a talented editor. 10 bux says Summitt is scared that David Slade has made a darker film. What did they think was going to happen with the director of Hard Candy and 30 Days of Night?
And how do you make an edit stronger? More shots of shirtless Indians?
More shirtless guys = more “OMG.. TAYLA UR SO HAWT!!! *sigh* = more $$$$
It seems Summit’s idea of grinding out the Twilight movies within months of each other, combined with Summit’s extremely poor choices of directors, has created a real problem for them.
With the movies opening so closely after the last one was shown, there is no time to fine-tune the release of the next movie, going by the problems the previous movie presented.
NM looked like Weitz had shot a bunch of footage and then threw it at the editors for them to string into a cohesive movie. Once NM was released, it became clear that the Weitz approach was not going to work.
I see the switch of editors as being a panic move by Summit.
The bottom line will be how much profit they make from each film. With NM, Summit was so desperate to get fans to buy the DVD that they gimmicked it up by having cast members at retail outlets.
Yet another blaring red warning sign that says crap lies ahead. *sigh*
I guess I’ll catch it on InDemand or something. After New Moon, I think I’m done lining Summit’s pockets in exchange for terrible films.