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Judge In 'Watchmen' Case Rules For Fox; Fans Brace For Fallout

Dec 26, 2008, 01:12 PM | by Jeff Jensen

Categories: 'Watchmen'

Drmanhattan_l You know how Santa Claus gives lumps of coal on Christmas Eve to those who’ve been very, very naughty? Well, so do judges. In a twist befitting the comic book in question, the judge presiding over the legal battle for distribution rights to Watchmen found in favor of Fox. The bottom line: Warner Bros. had absolutely no right to roll film on Zack Snyder’s adaptation of the Alan Moore/Dave Gibbons superhero classic. As fans wait to see if the ruling will prevent the film from being released as scheduled on March 3, Fox and Warner Bros. are waiting to see if the court will determine how much Fox should get for being so wronged -- unless the studios decide to settle the matter themselves.

The ruling comes as a surprise to Hollywood observers, mostly because no one expected the judge would issue this ruling at all. The conventional wisdom was that Warner Bros. and Fox would settle privately, and the rightness and wrongness of the situation would never be officially called. Moreover, on Dec. 16, the judge set a Jan. 20 trial date for the dispute, saying he had no intention of fulfilling the request of both parties to issue a summary judgment. Why? Because, he said, the darn thing was just too complicated!

But on Christmas Eve, Judge Gary Allen Feess reversed course and issued a ruling that was clear and decisive. Why did he change his mind? Because Fox and Warner Bros. asked him to. In the wake of Feess’ Dec. 16 edict, both studios pressed him to reconsider and issue a summary judgment, saying that settling this thing between them was all but impossible because they needed his guidance on interpreting an old contract between Fox and Watchmen producer Larry Gordon. That paper appears to indicate the following: Fox has always had the right to distribute a Watchmen movie; anytime Gordon put together a new version of a Watchmen movie (which is to say, develop a new script or snag a new director for the film), he had to offer Fox the chance to produce and distribute it; if Fox passed on the project, Gordon had the right to purchase Fox’s interest in Watchmen and take the project elsewhere.

More details on the ruling and what it means after the jump...

In his ruling, Feess concludes that Gordon never properly presented Fox with the option to produce and distribute the version of Watchmen developed by director Zack Snyder. He also makes it clear that neither Gordon nor Warner Bros. had bought out Fox’s interest before Warner Bros. went into production. Indeed, Feess’ ruling includes a rather sarcastic footnote blasting Gordon for his conduct in resolving this dispute. In section 3, Feess remarks that during Gordon’s deposition, the producer claimed he couldn’t properly recollect his contract with Fox. Feess seems so dismissive of Gordon’s allegedly faulty memory, he makes the following side ruling: Should Gordon suddenly remember some salient bit of information that could now help Warner Bros.’ cause, he should go back to conveniently forgetting about it. “[T]he court will not, during the remainder of this case, receive any evidence from Gordon that attempts to contradict any aspect of this Court’s ruling on the copyright issues under discussion.”

Feess' plainspoken declaration that Fox has always been in the right on this matter should represent vindication for the studio. Since Fox filed its lawsuit earlier this year, Watchmen fans and entertainment bloggers (including myself) have questioned why Fox waited until Snyder wrapped production before laying claim to the movie. Our questioning, of course, rested on two assumptions: 1. There was no way Gordon and Warner Bros. could have been so dim as to shoot a movie they had no right to make; and 2. If Fox was so possessive of Watchmen, how come it didn't try harder to stop Warner Bros. from wasting millions and millions of dollars on a movie it had no right to make? But as EW subsequently reported, Fox’s lawyers did contact Warner Bros. prior to Watchmen's production with the goal of resolving the matter and allowing Warner Bros. to roll film with a clear conscience -- albeit one purchased, no doubt, at great expense.

Nonetheless, fanboy vitriol toward Fox for daring to meddle with a movie they have long wanted to see continues to this very day. Just check out aint-it-cool-news' report on Fox's victory; the site's message boards are currently chockablock with choice, colorful words aimed at Fox and its top exec, Tom Rothman, who has become an unpopular figure because of Fox’s spotty track record with genre material under his leadership. Yes, many of them have been huge hits (X-Men; X-Men 3; I, Robot; Fantastic Four), but many of them haven’t (The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Daredevil, Elektra, The Day The Earth Stood Still), and with few exceptions (most notably, X-Men 2), none of them have made the hardcore sci-fi/comic book fans very happy due to the studio’s penchant for short running times, stingy budgets, and adaptation choices designed to make the material more mainstream-friendly. For them, Fox’s desire to lay claim to Watchmen gives them an excuse to vent. Some fans have even been calling for a boycott of Fox’s Wolverine next summer if the lawsuit should effectively delay Watchmen’s release indefinitely.

But does any of this really have anything to do with Watchmen? Absolutely not. With Feess’ decision, Fox’s lawsuit -- and its victory -- should be seen as an important move that really benefits all of Hollywood, as it affirms copyright laws that protect all studios. Fox deserves a break on Watchmen; according to Feess, their beef with Warner Bros. has always been legit.

How much will being right ultimately be worth to Fox? Perhaps a lot; perhaps nothing at all. Warner Bros. has been asking Feess to make one more crucial ruling in this case. The judge articulates the studio's request like this: “[T]o summarily adjudicate the issue of a contractual cap on the amount of compensatory damages to which Fox is entitled.” Now, I am no lawyer, but here’s how I might rephrase Warner Bros.’ position: “Let’s pretend for a moment that Fox is right in this matter. Judge, could you help us decide a fair price for Fox’s rights? Because we can't.” Perhaps all along, Warner Bros. has been gambling/banking that the judge will "adjudicate" a relatively affordable price for Fox's rights, or at least put a price tag on it that's much lower than the one Fox has been putting on it. As Feess has said that a longer version of his Christmas Eve ruling is forthcoming, perhaps the question of value will be determined at that time.

In the meantime, there are anxieties, questions, and theories: Will Warner Bros. appeal? If it does, Watchmen’s release could be held up by months. If Warner Bros. doesn’t appeal, what will Fox get in return? A cash payout per Gordon’s original contract? A cash payout plus penalties? A share of Watchmen’s total revenues? Might Warner Bros. settle the lawsuit by selling or ceding the film to Fox? If Fox got control of Watchmen, would they release Snyder’s film in its current 2 hour 30 minute form, or would they order him to (gulp) trim it or (double gulp) make changes?

To be continued…

More Watchmen from EW:
Flashback! Watchmen trial set for Jan. 20
Watchmen vs. Star Trek: Pick best trailer
Watchmen: Zack Snyder hosts a sneak peek
Watchmen worth the fuss: Kevin Smith
Flashback! Watchmen war: Fanboys furious with Fox
Watchmen: Exclusive First Look! 
Watchmen: A Chat with Director Zack Snyder (July 2008) 
Watchmen Creator Alan Moore: The EW Q&A (July 2008)
Watchmen: A Primer for Newcomers 


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Sithvol Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 11:12 AM EST

Fox doesn't care enough to worry if people boycott any film they make from now on. Warner Bros. were idiots for making a film they had no right to make in the first place, although it seems very shady to me that Fox would wait this late in the game to do anything about it. Sounds to me like Rothman and his ilk wanted to let Warner make the film and then reap the benefits from it free of charge. Movies have been made under the umbrella of several film companies at once many times before, most notably to me being "Master and Commander- The Far Side of the World" which was owned jointly by Universal, Miramax and Fox. A great film that upon release never made enough money to pay all the thumbs in the pie. The Watchmen may now be doomed to fail unless this judge decides to split up the rights. Either way that happens may see Fox push the release date back, or produce an inferior DVD product later that will cost consumers too much. However this is resolved, will end badly for fans.

Tim Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 08:01 PM EST

If Fox prevails, I sincerely hope that all the disappointed fans BOTCOTT Fox for ruining this. Since Fox is not willing to be in any way reasonable about profit sharing, etc, I'd love to see a BIG OOPS! release of the final cut - a free, high quality copy online to ruin any future try by Fox. If they want to be be b8tches about it, screw them.

Dave Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 11:57 AM EST

I think WB should first have to buy the rights for whatever Fox did, plus interest. Then WB can only get enough of the sales to cover its production costs, and then Fox should get everything beyond that, even DVD sales and beyond. WB should, at best, break even.

Personally, I think the movie looks a little silly, and I probably won't see it even though I love superhero movies, but that's just me.

ccross Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 09:37 AM EST

Thank you for whomever pointed out this is a matter of contractual law not copywright. Whether Fox ever intended to make the movie or not doesn't matter--they purchased the option to produce it, and paid the writer to do so. This is basic stuff so there's no way in h-e-double hockey sticks the writer didn't know or remember. Once you option a screenplay you can't shop it around until the option expires and the rights revert to the writer. I'm suprised Fox hasn't sued the writer for infringement, unless there was some backdoor deal that went awry--like Fox re-optioning to WB and then getting cold feet when they saw how big the movie was going to be, or something. Or maybe WB offered to buy the writer out of his option agreement and green-lighted before the deal went through, thinking by the time it came to court the movie would be released--thus paying Fox out of their profits.

Warrant Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 08:51 PM EST

If I were WB I'd can the film and take my losses before I'd cede it to FOX. Since the movie hasn't been released I don't see where FOX has lost anything yet so they shouldn't be owed anything. If FOX wants this movie so bad they can make it themselves.

Stevey Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 08:26 PM EST

I can't wait for this movie to come out. It looks awesome!!!! I love Rorschach's voice http://www.entertonement.com/clips/46175/Save-us

Jeff Jensen Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 07:38 PM EST

ddarko and bmt: I agree with you 100%. In retrospect, I shouldn't have brought the whole business of "copyright" into the piece. My bad.

Grey Rzeznik Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 05:34 PM EST

Fans don't CARE what kind of issue it is. We just want the damn movie released ON TIME and UNCUT. Period. Fight with WB behind the curtain, FOX, but don't delay the release of the movie otherwise you'll have ten kinds of fandom hell on your grubby, lazy, procrastinating, wuss hands.

Isn't it funny just how many Watchmen articles foxnews.com has run from the AP writers and not one blip about Fox looking into legal action against WB for stealing a project they clearly had no intention of making?

Dumpster Kitten Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 02:00 PM EST

The legal issue is very complicated, as the judge and the parties acknowledged--intellectual property law, copyright law, etc. The crux of the matter is the intent of the parties to the original contract--Larry Gordon and Fox. The intent should be spelled out within the four corners of the contract, but other types of evidence can be taken to determine the parties' intent when the contract itself is not clear. That's how Gordon came to give oral testimony. And that's why Judge Feess put in the footnote about not hearing anything else from Gordon. He's telling WB "you had your chance to offer testimony on Gordon's intent." BTW, it is unusual for a judge to include such a pointed footnote naming an individual. It's Appeals 101 that a higher court is bound to the factual record presented, so there's no need to include such a note. Judge Feess likely included the note to preclude a motion by WB to reconsider on grounds he "misunderstood" Gordon's testimony. In my opinion, of course.

XSE Drake Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 01:51 PM EST

This blog post captures my feelings on this perfectly.

http://www.cracked.com/blog/fox-can-eat-several-dicks/

Robert Gibbs Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 01:14 PM EST

There is no way Rothman will allow Watchmen to go out in its uncut form. The man has too much contempt for comic books and comic book fans.

Stan Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 12:58 PM EST

FOX has had a long history of screwing up comic book adaptions. The Fantastic Four movies being classic examples of how to take long treasured characters from the world of comic books and turning them into a turd stain excuse of a movie. The X-men movie were OK, but the third one was the unwanted child that should have been aborted. Hugh Jack-off-man is no Wolverine, never has been, never will be. The only way FOX could do a decent movie is to get another studio to do it for them. I hope FOX will have continue to have the success they had in '08!!

Adam Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 12:34 PM EST

If Fox changes any part of this movie I will hate them forever

Mozz Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 12:23 PM EST

It is a copyright. The suit states:
"Fox owns a copyright interest consisting of, at the very least, the right to distribute the Watchmen motion picture,"

They made a movie, that Fox owns the copyright to at least make or distribute, how could WB make a movie without having the copyrights for it.

Whether they have a contract or not is not the greater issue, it is, who ultimately owns the films copyrights... Judge feels it's FOX.

I'm actually glad the courts are out there to enforce ownership of a product. I applaud this decision, while still hoping the movie makes it to the screen.

ddarko Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 12:01 PM EST

"Thanks Doc for dumbing down the lawyer speak a bit, I'm no law student so I wouldn't be able to understand it alone"

Neither does the writer. As some other people have pointed out, this was a contract dispute, it had pretty much nothing to do with "affirming" copyright law. Sheesh, get a freakin' clue.

Leah Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 11:38 AM EST

Thanks Doc for dumbing down the lawyer speak a bit, I'm no law student so I wouldn't be able to understand it alone.

That said I hope that WB only has to part with a bit of money on this. No appeal and no loss of distribution money. I have my fingers crossed.

Jeff Fyke Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 09:08 AM EST

If the movie's as bad as "300," it doesn't matter much one way or the other.

bmt Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 03:52 AM EST

another unfortunate example of a journalist incapable of describing legal issues...

Amanda Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 01:52 AM EST

So help me God, that movie better come out on time. And it should because its in the best interest of both the movie companies for it to do so. Please WB and Fox, settle this squabble so we can see the movie! Think of other people for once in your selfish existences!

J. Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 12:59 AM EST

Fox can burn in hell.

Ophelia Vanity is Awesome Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 12:23 AM EST

I'm not concerned about this ruling. The movie will come out in March. It just means Fox is owed some dough.

Jeff Lewis Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 12:20 AM EST

"Fox has always had the right to distribute a Watchmen movie..."

"Fox’s lawsuit -- and its victory -- should be seen as an important move that really benefits all of Hollywood, as it affirms copyright laws that protect all studios..."

No. This isn't a copyright issue - it's a contract law issue. And it underlines the real *problem* with how copyright law has been horribly distorted by the entertainment industry from being an incentive to create new works to being a way for one hit wonders to rest on their laurels indefinitely and corportations to milk any old idea forever.

Copyrights have become worse than patents simply because they are easier to get and require less reason to exist. We need to return to the original intent of the copyright concept.

RIchie Cranium. Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 12:10 AM EST

Now i dont feel bad for Pirating everything fox makes. PIRATE FOX!

Danny Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 12:08 AM EST

I take it back, Alan moore is an ABSOLUTE Genius. I dont blame him for his opinoin on this. ALSO, i suck major cack.

Darnell Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 12:06 AM EST

If this movie doesnt come out, i'm boycottying EVERYTHING Warner Bros and FOX make. Its MOSTLY Warner Bros. Fault. Its not Fox's fault, they Make crappy movies so they need all the rights they can get. Dont boycott fox because of this, boycott them because their movies are just absolute ASS.

Steve Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 11:50 PM EST

Fox wants not only the money from Warner Bros., but also the rights to distribute the old Batman show from the 60s. There is no reason for Watchmen to be delayed.

sean Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 11:20 PM EST

Warner Bros. makes the best films in the business... The only way this film could have been made successfully is with the Warner touch. It's about making movies that people want to see... If Fox wanted to make this film, they should have done it... They didn't have the balls to make it. Warner Bros. had the creative vision and marketing power to bring this project to life and make audiences talk about it! I'll see it if/when Warner wants me to see it. It'll be worth the wait!

Danny Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 09:29 PM EST

Wolverine will be huge no matter what, although this is all rather disappointing I'm not going to boycott anything. It would be stupid of FOX not to release "Watchmen" when it will make millions, all they care about is money so why wouldn't they release it...WB just needs to settle and offer them 60% Or more of the profits, which will be a huge loss but maybe Fox will accept it. If Watchmen doesn't get released in 2009, it will be so disappointing. As for the guy who said it looked dark and depressing, that's what made it different than all other graphic novels at the time! It's an epic superhero period piece and its better than anything Alan Moore has done since. I still think Alan Moore is an a**hole for not supporting the movie and his whole attitude. He is just a control freak. He could have been on the set and had creative liberties but instead he disowned the project entirely. I think everyone here needs to stop attacking each other and get mad at Hollywood.

dlite Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 09:18 PM EST

Yeah I can imagine there will be huge fallout for FOX from this. They are reeling from losses already, and when you add all the fans boycotting their other ventures, they may be in for a shock. I'll have no problem not seeing the wolverine flick after the crappy outting Fox had with X3

Peter Lee Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 09:07 PM EST

I know you're writer, not a lawyer, but if you're going to try to make a big deal out of a legal decision, then it's your duty to learn a little bit about the law. The judge is not saying anything out of the ordinary about Larry Gordon's testimony. Clearly, he's not happy with the testimony but when he says he won't accept any further evidence, the judge is simply stating a common legal practice. Once a court closes the factual record, it refuses to hear further evidence. This is routine. That's all Judge Feess is saying: I've closed the record and I will hear no more testimony. This is normal legal practice, there's nothing controversial about it. Trying to turn it into some special slam by the judge against Gordon is completely misinformed. Either talk to a lawyer or watch some more Law & Order.

The Joker Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 07:00 PM EST

Watchmen sucks HA HA HA HA HA

BRADD BRADD Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 06:52 PM EST

Wow, Fox this is pathetic. I hope Wolverine bombs now as a lesson to Fox (no offense Hugh Jackman) Warner Bros had a fantastic year (The Dark Knight being the biggest) while Fox had many bombs (their biggest hit this year is HoRTON HEARS A WHO)this is a very dirty trick to get a movie for free that probably cost well over 100 million to make. And Warner Bros is still recoverin from the tragedy that is speed racer (over 200 million to make including marketing-- only made 44 million in the U.S) i hope many people will start boycotting fox. At least Warner bros has Harry potter 6 coming out in july-- 1 billion bucks worldwide right there. Fox, why dont you take Potter from Warner bros as well lmao

JACK Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 06:22 PM EST

LOL yeah I wasn't going to see Wolverine anyway but now I definitely don't wan't any of my money going towards FOX. If FOX gets there hands on WATCHMEN they will kill it by making it under 2 hours and PG-13. DAMN U FOX!

Dave S Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 06:12 PM EST

I was already planning on boycotting Wolverine because of the massive changes to his origin story. This just gives me incentive to make sure all my friends join me in the endeavor.

Snarf Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 05:30 PM EST

So much for WB being in the black (from profits from The Dark Knight) and starting off 2009 in a positive financial place. What a quagmire.

Pytheus Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 05:24 PM EST

Spider-man was delayed many years because of legal rights battles. I was still in high school when Spider-man was first mentioned and was given to James Cameran, but he was busy with Titanic. It took more the 5 years to settle everything and eventually the movie was made.

This move to get the movie made before legal battles was a bold move and maybe planned this way. They made a gamble. Fox may have had the right to make the film, but I'm sure WB will be claiming rights to other things involved with the finished project. Possible costume and set designs as well as possible toy rights. Will have to see what their plan turns out to be but I'm sure they know of some sneaky backhanded way of making a fortune out of this.

MP Mom Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 05:21 PM EST

I think Vic is Jim Steranko. Alan Moore is no God, but it is still a good book. I hope the film sees the light of the day in March, as planned.

SLCMB Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 05:06 PM EST

Contract law is simple. If you are in a contract, and you can make more money by breaking the contract, then you can simply break it, pay the damages, and move on with the better deal.

In this case, WB undoubtedly saw this as an opportunity to make a ton of money, gamble that the judge would rule in their favor, and get a ton of free publicity.

It seems unlikely that WB would appeal, they know they are wrong and there is likely very little to overturn the judge's decision. So, they will simply seek for a $ amount to be put on the damages.

The way I see it is that the judge will have to simply look at what it would have cost WB to buy Fox's rights before the movie was made. This could come to a relatively small amount. The judge cannot base it on the revenues - that is not the contract, the judge will have to look at what Fox would have sold the rights for - and if WB can demonstrate that Fox would have passed on the movie initially, then the damages are minimal

Mike Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 04:25 PM EST

@Vic Nardozza

You are an idiot, plain and simple...

alynch Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 04:03 PM EST

"Bryan, it has to do with Fox's dragging of their collective ass while this motion picture was being made.

They could as easily have filed for a work-stoppage order early on during the filming of this motion picture, and they apparently didn't. It isn't as if the production of this film has been any great secret, what with fan interest and discussion about it for so long now."

I've read this sentiment from various commenters, and I can only assume that they didn't actually read the article. FOX did contact WB prior to the film getting made regarding the rights issue, and they were ignored. This is WB's fault, pure and simple. And are you really claiming that had FOX stopped the film while it was being made, that fanboys would've been kind and understanding.

Nick Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 02:08 PM EST

WB = Not smart, bordering on brain damaged.

FOX = Savy, bordering on brilliant.

Why block the creation of something which you can own for nothing because it was made without your OK in the first place. FOX just got a free movie. Savy.

William Wright Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 11:22 AM EST

to ROB GRIZZLY

How much more could 300 have made in the summer? did you happen to see how much it made? 200+ million, that's huge, it wasn't a fluke either, the first weekend in March is a huge weekend with Spring Break etc. 10,000 BC didn't work because it a. sucked and b. had no hype

Jamie Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 10:54 AM EST

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