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Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 09:40 PM EST

"if i was in your shoes i wouldnt want that to happen to any of my brothas or sisters."

I don't consider anyone in the industry a "brotha" or a "sister" who spews the hateful crap you guys have been spewing. This is out of left field for me. To agree with David, I've always been kind and respectful to all depts... and why wouldn't I? Guess we're seeing now what you all REALLY think of us. That honestly bums me out, as I consider a lot of crew I've gotten to know friends. But, what do you expect when you can post anonymously, though right? We all want this crap to be over, we all want to be working, guys. SAG's negotiating team hasn't done this well. Please don't paint the folks at the mercy of that leadership with the same brush.

Daniel M. Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 09:21 PM EST

Like it's the actors that have been keeping everyone on hold. It's the leadership of SAG calling the shots here. Tell me... please tell me how I can allow the industry to move forward RIGHT NOW and I will. Not really a whole lot I can do is there? So while I'm working on my magic actor wand, go spout your hate somewhere else.

David Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 09:00 PM EST

I'm completely floored my the hateful comments being made here. Especially by "crew." To categorically eviscerate an entire group of people. Disgusting. As if all actors are the same worthless hacks, full of nothing but selfish greed, sitting in their mansions trying to figure out how to ruin your lives. I've made my living as an actor for over a decade now and I've always treated everyone on a set with complete respect... and I always got the same in return. I guess this is a wake up call for me. What a shame.

Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 11:30 PM EST

most actor "think" they are God incarnate. Guess what anyone can read lines. You "actors" are putting thousands of people out of work because you can't decide to strike or not. Most of the crew, (and guess what there wouldn't be a show without them either) have been out of work since June. So please sh++ or get off the pot.

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Bill Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 08:28 PM EST

I cannot believe all of the idiotic comments from people on this site about the SAG contract! I am in SAG, and I have read what AMPTP are offering us, they actually want to take things away from us! Hey you people in the crew, how would you feel if your union was trying to give you a bad deal? That’s right it is a bad deal! Have any of you read what they are offering? If not look it up! Now with that being said, I am going to vote NO on the strike as it is just a very bad time for it, and I feel for everyone out there that depend on SAG actors for their work, yes that is right, if there were no actors then there would be no crew, and hey I have seen how slow some of you crew can be good luck finding another job. Ok back to what you crew people are wondering…I have been talking to other SAG actors and most of us feel the same way, none …well most of the actors I have been talking to want to strike at least not at this time, we will wait until the contract comes up again.

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max Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 09:45 AM EST

Art Dawg ... doing porno does not constitute feature experience. Before i got in the union, I worked for those low ball, garbage, anti-union fudgepackers like PEGI and Hallmark Entertaintment ... no wonder you weren't allowed in the union, we are Professional Motion Picture Techs, not porn freaks or sci-fi geeks

Linford Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:54 AM EST

I am devastated. The "Actor" is the brightest person on earth, a ray of sun to the planet. Behold the actor as they cast a glow upon a dark society who hath shunned our spotlight. Behold me! I am an Actor! I represent the world's best specimen of a human being, I represent Zeus in a world of commoners. I was born above all others thus I get a special place in life above all others, a place in the sun, the hills, the ocean at my beck and call. Shun you all who live in the cold, you all are not as lofty as myself. I have a home in Beverly Hills because I was born to live for a calling that is beyond others. I am an Actor! I need my rest among the golden thus I need the strike to show the world I am better! I am the Actor! Above you all IATSE handmaidens, thou will stoop at my feet in shame. I am above work because I have a talent that deserves recognition and riches. Behold me, actors unite, we are above the runts of this state!

RIGGER/IATSE Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 02:37 PM EST

correct my spelling i meant unlike like SAG. IATSE members have love n pride for there work.....

rigger/IATSE Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 02:31 PM EST

I cant belive how hard headed and selfish these actors r,unlike the rest of iatse members we work and have love n pride in our work..u actors need to realize that your not far from losing all your jobs..and the ones replacing u will b the people working in mc donalds n the guys in front of home depot,and probaly a couple x sag members without out your silly residuals. wake up n look around chevy,chrysler,ford...SAGS NEXT so dont vote yes n take us with you.I have a family with two kids to feed n support and i ussaully work to do that but your holding that up.The writers put the knife in hollywood, now SAG is going to kick em while there down,heres an idea stop n think about someone n something but yourself, theres people losing there homes people about to,im not far away my self n if i was in your shoes i wouldnt want that to happen to any of my brothas or sisters.

Damien Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:07 PM EST

Hey Simple Simon, how does it feel to be the worlds biggest Gobshite?. None of you SAG twits will have the nerve to picket .... its too much like work.

The pissed assist. Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 01:04 PM EST

CORRECTION.. the only FOR PROFIT union in town.

The pissed assist. Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 01:02 PM EST

I have to laugh at all of the supporters now. With 20th Century FOX now going AFTRA as of Jan. 2009 how many other networks/studios do you think are going to follow suit. With networks like ABC and NBC being completely broke it will happen. WE WILL HAVE A PILOT SEASON, HA!. And for those of you who think we should hold the actors in some higher reguard, PISS OFF!! Without all of the assistants, agents, managers, production and casting crew not the mention the millions worldwide that pay to see the projects, these actors would be no different than the people your getting your bag of McDonalds from. The holdout is a selfish act and if SAG continues on its path we'll see the end to the regime. With the studio/networks going the actors soon will too. Funny how the only non-profit union in town is the one willing to cripple an entire industry and worsen the entire economy. Greed is one of the 7 deadly sins, and it will be the death of SAG if they continue! Happy Holidays : )

wwireless Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:49 PM EST

Someone syas AFTRA stabbed SAG in the back? HaHaHa!
The unions should have merged long ago but the members of SAG didn't want to be lumped in with peons such as commercial talent and newscasters. SAG has dug it's own hole, now it's time for all the koolaid drinkers to jump in.

Simon Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 03:03 AM EST

I support the SAG strike. And seeing how ignorant most of you posters are I won't feel bad if any of you lose your homes. If it weren't for actors, producers and crew people would have no jobs and never get laid. Worship the geese that lay your golden eggs. Ungrateful crew people need to lose their homes. Ungrateful producers needs to lose their homes and companies. SAG actors rock.

Pissed Off A.D. Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 01:51 AM EST

I've just read (rather skimmed) through all the dozens if not 100's of comments here. It's quite obvious, anti SAG sentiments are about 40 to 1. SO, I gather my comments will more than reflect the majority here. Basically, if you (like so many other hard-working & honorable Crew Members) are completely fed up with over-paid cry-baby Prima Donas having control over YOUR financial destiny, guess what? There's nothing we can do about it! My guess is, with the overall collapse of so many Huge Corporations... how much you wanna' bet all the Union Funds are GONE? Why should IATSE & the TEAMSTERS be any different than Wall Street? Hopefully, this Strike will be averted, but I doubt it, and I TRULY hope that the Producers with give a middle finger salute to SAG and NEVER hire any SAG @SSHOLE AGAIN! Fire 'em ALL! HIRE NEW FACES for Minimum Wage! Put THAT in an AD and see how many Bartenders & Waitressed show up... SAG Members included!

I say...

Art Dawg Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 01:31 AM EST

Kevin Cannon and all you Pro-strike SAG dopes have your pointy little heads up your @ss! Naive? Go look in a mirror! Your precious "head-shot" is in the Dictionary under "naive!" Screw ALL the Unions & let 'em go down the toilet. Ever see a Teamster lift up anything other than a fork? Wake up... over 3/4 of Hollywood is non-union! I've been fired from 3 shows for trying to organize & have NEVER had any Union "Dude" help ME to get in the union; and I've done 50+ Features and probably 1000+ Commercials. So, while you poor Saps lose your homes, I'll be WORKING! And on my days off, I'll be in my pool, talking on my cell to my kid in College! More power to the Indy Producers & non-union shows! Oh yeah, you can blame SAG & ALL the other Unions for "RUNAWAY PRODUCTIONS" going out of the Zone; out of the State and... OUT OF THE COUNTRY! C-Ya in Dubai!

Big Al Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:36 AM EST

F those greedy SAG AHoles. They dont seem to realize that nobody cares whether or not they get a bump on residuals, they're lucky they get them in the first place. Some of us who are willing to work for a livivng and arent waiting for a breakthrough so my lazy ass can sit at home and collect residuals. Americans will not be happy with the greedy AHoles putting millions out of work- they will stop going to the movie theaers and watching these TV shows-what then? SAG is just slitting the whole entertainment industries throat!
Voting yes on a strike will be detremental to the industry!
Dont do it!

delfina Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 06:35 PM EST

If SAG strikes right now it's headed for its demise. When AFTRA split from SAG and made a deal it stabbed all actors in the back and weakened the bargaining power of SAG. SAG is now in a terrible bargaining position. If they strike right now, they'll be demonized because striking is probably the worst thing for the economy and the industry. Also, AFTRA has its deal and all the jobs will go to them. I've heard that there IS going to be a pilot season and it will be all AFTRA jobs. Lastly, I agree with the prior comment that Reagan killed the air traffic controllers union and the producers can probably bust up SAG. The producers profited hugely from the writer's strike, and they have an alternative actor's pool in place with AFTRA. There's no leverage.
I believe that SAG should negotiate the best deal possible. But with the producers refusing to even show up at the bargaining table, it's obvious they're playing hardball This is very alarming, but a strike? Bad idea.

in2Art-n-Film Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 01:00 PM EST

SAG's Marie Antoinette ("But there's no bread! The people are starving!" "Let them eat cake!") attitude is just them showing their true colors & character. And as one lame-brain SAG member who made a "comment" here failed to comprehend, unlike YOU who have a "real job" (waiter; bartender;etc.) to fall back on... Crew members DO NOT have that luxury as they need their WORK to support their Families & Pay bills. "What do you do?" "I'm an Actor" "What restaurant do you work at?"

daragh byrne Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 02:42 AM EST

If i hire a plumber to install a new toilet in my house, do i have to write him a check every time i take a sh**. Residuals ? Kiss my a** !!

Catherine Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 11:16 PM EST

This has nothing to do with being naive or with the power of the producers. It has to do with common sense. Thousands of people are at the mercy of this potential strike which has already wrought destruction this past seven months--just the threat of a strike has practically shut the town down. In a situation such as this a utilitarianism stance should be adopted: sacrifice the unreasonable demands of the few to protect the welfare of the many. SAG's demands are highly unreasonable at this economically challenging time, especially since AFTRA and WGA, etc. have reached far less-demanding agreements. One does not need the influence of the producers to see how ridiculous and insensitive the leaders of SAG have been. The idea of residuals is silly to begin with. You do a job and get paid once for it as with any other job. There are many 'careers' that are sporadic in nature and it is a choice to pursue the ones that offer questionable financial stability. Actors are a dime a dozen.

Kevin Cannon Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 11:14 AM EST

Why are all the comments from Crew and why are there no Pro SAG comments posted..Ahhh..The power of the producers..As a SAG member who actually does not have "another" job (I have a career) I (Unlike crew) do not work everyday and consequently suffer and scrape and worry year round..And the only thing that protects me is SAG..
Do you know how many crew & cd's are blatantly asking SAG to work Non-Union on SAG projects or they do not work at all!!
The producers are trying to break SAG..and your Union is next !!!
How can you be so Naive'

Catherine Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 01:11 AM EST

I don't even know what to say anymore. This whole situation is so disconcerting. We are IATSE union members and this lack of work for the last few months has been very damaging. The SAG leaders are narcissistic and have an abundance of arrogance and hubris. It is important for those who support the strike to know that the fight for residuals is comparatively trivial. So much money is has been and continues to be lost that it is becoming a mmot point. Most of the SAG members have other jobs anyway allowing them to wait this out forever. It is the rest of the film industry that suffers and is at the mercy of these ridiculous negotiations. The whole town is compromised. When will the rest of us be considered? People are losing their homes over this. You want to argue about residuals? Gee, I see the same makeup, lighting, props, wardrobe more than once. Should everyone be entitled to residuals? If you want more money, get a different job, and WORK hard like the rest of us.

Damien Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 10:20 PM EST

Jay , all this deal is going to do for young developing actors is export their opportunities. We all work extremely hard in this business and we all bring everything we've got to the table, so please stop deluding yourselves by thinking that these residual deals do anything to further your career. If you're Brad Pitt or even a talented star then you've worked your ass of and deserve to reap the benefits of being effectively a producer but if you're waiting tables at Mels Diner for a living and pulling down the occasional one line gig then don't kid yourself. Acting is an art form ..... a lifetime journey ...... NOT a 401k. If you're really good you'll make it and then you can get to play producer.

Damien Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 10:07 PM EST

Hey G, sorry to hear that, I probably won't be long behind you. I reckon if it weren't for SAG our industry could do a pretty good job of weathering this economic downturn. They're about as clever as a bunch of Ivy league wall street business grads with a few Detroit CEO's thrown in for good measure. They should all be rounded up and put into the nearest home for the bewildered. This SAG bubble will burst and the sooner the better.

jay Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 10:03 PM EST

To the person who said:
"Why should Brad (Pitt) have any say though? He did his part, and he got paid. A LOT. That's that. He did not CREATE the film. The producers created it along with the writers and directors...What do actors do really? They go in and work for a couple months (mostly sitting around playing games in their trailers being waited on by unpaid interns)..."

Just wanted to let this person know that they should no longer be aloud to breathe air for being so stupid. Do you really think SEVEN would have been nearly as popular with out Brad Pitts name (which he spent his entire life creating). And now producers want the rights to something that could destroy what we work everyday of our lifes for. You have no idea how hard it is to be an actor. Yea mabey some actors get paid well, but this isnt about them, this is about the working actor who needs these rights so we can progress ourselfs forward, get what weve worked our entire lifes for. so please dont ever speak again

g Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 09:04 PM EST

If Ronald Regan could get rid of the air traffic controllers union during their strike don't you think the AMPTP can figure a way to do the same to SAG? Or at least move all the work out of SAG's jurisdiction. The strike authorization vote should have all been done in June when the contract expired. Great timing for a strike. MERRY CHRISTMAS !! I AM GIVING MY HOUSE TO THE BANK FOR CHRISTMAS.

Damien Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 07:00 PM EST

I'm a Production Designer and d'you know what I see? everytime actors or writers take more of the pie more, and more producers move their projects out of the states to places like vancouver and Buenos Aires as they can buy out all talent residuals there for peanuts. I've been doing jobs in both of these cities as a result. But what about the crew I work with in LA ?.... nothing. The more you guys take the more work you'll be pushing away ..... its OK for the name actors as they get their deal anywhere in the world but it's the small guy's that will ultimately suffer. Why believe in a union thats ultimately going to take away your career? Its time we all got paid for a days work ... If you want residuals then go be a producer and invest some cash, hell I could whine all day about the intellectual material I bring to the table .... do you think any actors or writers would stop working? No Way! Get back to work you Greedy Muppets.

Lorene Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 01:27 PM EST

My husband and I are also IATSE crew members and are now losing our home and filing for bankruptcy. We were going so well for 10 years until the writers strike, now the SAG strike is finally bringing us to our knees. Good job SAG and AMPTP... you've out done yourselves... you have officially put the industry on hold for the last 6 months and now the crew members are hurting. When SAG strikes this will change the entire industry permanently. The greedy studios will start producing all reality and AFTRA shows. I have completely lost hope that anything will turn around. It's tough having kids and now home... but I guess we'll manage so SAG can get everything they need.

Angie Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 11:37 PM EST

Don't vote for the strike. I am a SAG/AFTRA member (and boy was writing those checks painful). Now I work in production and have the occasional gig. Believe me, network television will either not recover at all, or SAG will be broken because AFTRA is coming on like gangbusters. They can get away with it because we all shoot in Hi-Def now and that's NOT DONE ON FILM.

If you honestly think a strike will help, I hope to GOD that the show I work on switches to AFTRA so that I can continue to pay my bills. I get meager residuals through AFTRA, yes, but as someone pointed out, NO OTHER JOB pays you when you aren't working just because of work you did earlier. And not intellectual property, sweetie, you're just the face on camera.

The last time SAG did this, we got a bunch of reality TV. Is that what you want? Residuals on work that will never come?

Tyler Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 06:06 AM EST

The leaders of SAG are to blame. As a member, I support the provisions we're trying to negotiate, but I do not support the way leaders have handled it. SAG failed to authorize a strike when it was needed, which was prior to June 30, 2008. Our union leaders foolishly decided to continue, and the fallacy is that the only leverage a union has is to strike. They've spent months wasting everyone's time, only to determine what should have been abundantly clear all along - a strike is necessary to change the minds of the AMPTP. A strike would have long been settled by now, during far better economic times. At this point, California cannot afford a strike. While I want to get everything we're fighting for, it's not worth the hardships it will cause. We are in the grip of failed leadership policies, and the decision we're about to make had better be about the leadership we want; not just someone saying "hey let's go strike," but "is it the right time for it?" "Will it serve the greater good?"

sean Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:06 AM EST

Yes the AMPTP has thier head up thier *@#!

Mindy Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 08:31 AM EST

I can not believe the AMPTP is going to destroy Hollywood by not even showing up to negotiate a fair contract. While the AMPTP has been stuffing thier pockets and failing to offer any give and take in what negotiations they have had with the SAG union.They have attend the negotiations to date closed eyed and closed minded and they are going to destroy so many jobs, families and homes that depend on the film industry. They have a counter on thier website showing money lost because SAG won't take a cookie cutter forced fed and unfair contract. Well SAG should have a counter showing the money that the entertainment industry will lose because of the AMPTP's refusal to take a realistic look at the facts. These studios heads need to think what they are going to do to the economy and the working class. AMPTP don't destroy the working class of the entertainment industry!!

jack Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 01:08 AM EST

Actors DO NOT get to take all the credit simply because they are in front of the camera. Get over yourselves. It seems that those who are willing to strike in this economic climate have nothing to lose as it is and that is not a reason to vote for a strike. To strike right now is pure greed, knowing that so many non SAG people would be profoundly affected.

Kristine Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 12:56 PM EST

I really don't understand how anyone can vote yes. It's all posturing. What in the world makes you think SAG deserves any more than WGA/DGA, etc...??? Get your head back up in the air and look around. You're being puppetered by A.R. for his agenda at the pain, suffering and injury to all. Same as WGA leader, he was all attitude and nothing more than ego that cost the film business 2.5-5 billion in earnings, etc. You may think you're standing up for what you deserve but when you contribute to the killing of an economy, your neighbors, your businesses, etc. etc.. how much good have you really done when you've contributed to the decline in your home value, to the errosion of the small businesses you need, then look around at the destruction that your 'strike' caused and let me know how you deserve anything. It's crazy to think a strike would do actors good. Look at the bigger picture you'll be laying out for yourselves. A yes vote is a tragic vote contributing to your own demise.

Kristine Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 12:56 PM EST

I really don't understand how anyone can vote yes. It's all posturing. What in the world makes you think SAG deserves any more than WGA/DGA, etc...??? Get your head back up in the air and look around. You're being puppetered by A.R. for his agenda at the pain, suffering and injury to all. Same as WGA leader, he was all attitude and nothing more than ego that cost the film business 2.5-5 billion in earnings, etc. You may think you're standing up for what you deserve but when you contribute to the killing of an economy, your neighbors, your businesses, etc. etc.. how much good have you really done when you've contributed to the decline in your home value, to the errosion of the small businesses you need, then look around at the destruction that your 'strike' caused and let me know how you deserve anything. It's crazy to think a strike would do actors good. Look at the bigger picture you'll be laying out for yourselves. A yes vote is a tragic vote contributing to your own de

MH Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 11:26 PM EST

always choose your battles...always...timing is everything

IATSE and SAG member Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 01:18 PM EST

Hey Meg...have you talked to any IATSE, DGA, or Teamster members??? Use your brains???? I wish SAG members would. Nice time to strike by the way....oh yeah...SAG members have other jobs to fall back on...that's why you guys don't care...as a SAG member I will not vote for the strike.

Meg Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 09:24 AM EST

I asked 123 friends of mine that are SAG if they are going to vote yes or no for a strike. The outcome was a surprise 109 said they would vote for a strike on the bollot in December. After thinking about the issues I must also vote for a stike when the time comes.
An informed and intelligent SAG member would have to vote yes.

Use your brains people!

Alton Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 09:18 AM EST

Im SAG and I will vote for a strike.

44FX Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 01:24 AM EST

SAG is comparable to the Big 3 CEOs. They go looking for money without a well thought out plan. The end result was the same. The AMPTP sensed and smelled fear, then went for the throat. With wholesale layoffs, retirement portfolios dropping like rocks, tightening credit, the film industry has work just waiting to be done and no green lights to start said work. And think of all the people who support the business who are not unionized. They were the first to go and probably won't be back having to find some other job to survive. SAG members should think about whether the "tables that they wait" will be here in the near future when John Q Public only has money for staples of life and not the luxuries. How does the saying go? "A goal without a plan is just a wish."

Brad Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 04:23 PM EST

Many people including many SAG actors are talking about "No Strike" because the current economical recession...I would like to see that people when they start complaining about no getting the residuals... The same million dollars residuals AMPT will keep for them. (Many of the comments in this page are from AMPT people...take a new look of their language)....
SAG deaf? I don't think so.

IATSE and SAG member...so PEACE! Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 11:44 AM EST

Okay, SAG DOES have a reason to fight, but not this way. One union should not separate itself from the others and say its doing this for everyone. Not everyone is going to benefit from this, SAG members included. You'll only see a difference in pay if you get cast and then make the cut!!!! How can you claim Moral Higher Ground and jeprodize the livelihood of others (the Crafts) that are not hindering you???

Are you kidding me!!! Actors comparing themselves to Cesar Chavez and using the AFL-CIO as a basis to gain support. Cesar Chavez wasn't fighting for residuals. He was fighting for a meager few cents raise on hourly wages, not residuals. Also he struggled to make working in some of the worst work conditions more bearable. Not in a studio with Craft Services.

Don't claim Moral Higher Ground, this decision will cost others their livelihoods. Grips, Camera people, MU, Art do not have a a day job waiting for their big break.

j Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 11:43 AM EST

Wow lots of hate and love. Very interesting things. I will say one thing, not really for or against the Strike. But someone within this thread talked about Health Insurance. And Wow that's a great idea. I do think SAG should renegotiate and come up with a new plan to really “help” its members instead of coming up with fluff that only helps the “concept” of it’s members. The fact that the average actor is making approx $5K to $6K a year, shows the first problem. But if help is what actors want then I think starting with Health Insurance is a good way to go.

JON Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 12:47 AM EST

I don't know how to make this more clear for you actors that can't see past the end of your nose. The producers ARE going to AFTRA! Read Variety! I posted here last night and you didn't even read it... Now it's in Variety. I'm a working actor and I have two other businesses. I work! And I try to be informed. SO WAKE UP! READ WHAT OTHERS ARE TELLING YOU and then make your statements... and stop drinking the koolaid.

Minx Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 03:35 PM EST

Anyone who thinks all actors are spoiled and overcompensated needs to wake up and realize that most, like me have sacrificed everything to do this. I'm a trained professional and about to lose my home and my car - because this system is broke. Did Caesar Chavez just give in because "it wasn't a good time to strike." The Lehman Brother's CEO took home 300 Million dollars for the last three years, so we should just sit down and be quiet. I don't think so.
It's hard for people to understand and respect what we do even though they enjoy work every day, because it's not a "job" but principle must be upheld for things to change and sometimes you have to scream for your voice to be heard. I hardly call that tone deaf.

Ameliamade Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 12:24 PM EST

To use the terms popularized by the most recent election- Wall Street = CEO's of entertainment companies and Main Street = Actors. SAG is not asking for money from the other Motion Picture Unions, who are still hurting from the last strike (THEY HURT FROM THAT ONE TOO!)- it is asking the Producer's and CEO's to share the wealth. Anybody seen any CEO's hurting for cash lately? I think other unions have a hard time understanding the risks an actor takes. There is a sort of "you signed up for it" attitude toward actors. This is not entirely fair, because if actors did not sign up for it- no one would work. To insure talented actors can continue make our culture's film and television shows shine, we must support them in getting contracts that allow them to stay afloat between jobs. The between jobs period is just a reality of the structure of this business for the actor- it is unavoidable- something people in other lines of work don't seem to understand and chalk up to laziness.

Nooooo! Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 08:45 AM EST

Wake up and say NO to a strike!

www.PetitionOnline.com/DealNow/petition.html

JON Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 01:43 AM EST

AS A SAG MEMBER CONSIDER THIS... THE AMPTP CAN TAKE THEIR TV SHOWS TO AFTRA AND THEIR FEATURES TO "RIGHT TO WORK" STATES, CANADA, COSTA RICA ETC. THEY DON'T NEED US. WAKE UP!!! IT'S AS IF WE ARE ALL READY STRIKING... NO ONE IS WORKING. HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS ARE STRUGGLING RIGHT NOW... IF WE STRIKE IT WILL BE THE DEATH OF SAG!

Miriam S. Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 01:30 AM EST

Both sides are too far apart unfortunately.

Maybe the new President elect will help.

Best,

Miriam

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1253853/
http://LiveFastDieYoungMovie.com

james lee Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 08:10 PM EST

Here's a new thought. SAG wants residuals, part of the profits of their employers plus a wage for their work. Wages plus profit participation with no financial risk in the outcome of the project? It's time the unions, especially SAG, started realizing why the producers fight them on this issue. Who would take on a partner who wants a guaranteed wage plus part of the profits while risking none of their own money?

Out of Work IATSE Member Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 07:35 PM EST

Strike? We have for all intents and purposes already BEEN on strike for the last six months waiting for these bozos to get their act together. All of us "behind the scenes" people, Construction, Grip, Electric, Hair, Make Up, Special Effects, Props, etc., etc, are dieing a slow death out here. People are on the verge of losing their homes. If they go on strike, there won't be a film industry to come back to. AND they ask us to support them? When has SAG ever gave a crap about IATSE and it's members?

Mike Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 06:20 PM EST

Nice job AL!!
I agree!

Al Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 06:18 PM EST

I am a SAG member and I can not believe the studios are so closed minded to the thought of fairly compensating the actors. The actors are the ones who put themselves out in front of the public and are open to critics from all angles. While I have nothing but praise for all the crews, writers, directors and producers on motion pictures and support them in thier efforts. Actors take 90% of the risk for the qualty of a film.
While I love to act and work. I unfortunatly would have to support a stike vote. Even in these tough economic times I would put my career on the line because if we are taken advantage of now we will be again and we will have lost all the gains and respect we have earned through the years. All fellow SAG members must join in the strike for fair compensation. One step back for us is a giant leap for the Congloms.
They say SAG is tone deaf! SAG is only deaf because they have failed to speak rationally about fair compensation.
Congloms think about who makes you rich!

Mike Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 05:40 PM EST

The AFL-CIO supports SAG

Mary Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 05:37 PM EST

SAG only wants a fair deal. I think a strike is the only way to open the eyes of the studios.
If I was SAG I would vote to strike.

ANDREW Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 05:34 PM EST

Yes I vote to authorize a strike.

GB Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 05:33 PM EST

Yes it is unfourtunate that the studios want to rich and fat off SAG actors by not paying new media risduals while the studios will continually get richer and richer with every rerun of shows and movies online and on DVD. The congloms are upset that SAG has the foresight to see the profits they plan on raking in if SAG does not get these residuals!

SAG MUST STRIKE NOW!

Wifeof44 Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 03:27 PM EST

I realize that the majority of famous actors live in their own eutopia, and believe that the true Messiah is walking the earth today, but COME ON!! The economic world as we know it is falling out from underneath us as we speak, and SAG has the audacity to "educate" their own on a strike? LA lost billions in 3 months this year, and that was WHILE tv and film crews continued working. If the actors strike, there will be NO WORK for any of us "little people" trying to make a decent living and support our families. Where's Clooney now being the "quarterback" for his team? What's next? Is that Rosenberg f*@$ flying to DC to ask for a bailout of his own?

Mike Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 02:14 PM EST

Midge, if you truly believe that unemployed actors are unemployed because they have "no skills", then I feel sorry for you, because you were obviously born without a brain.

Chuck Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 01:44 PM EST

This is nuts. The whole country is tanking. Do they want to chase what is left of the business offshore? We all need to tighten our belts. Stop being so selfish, accept what the WGA and DGA did.

NO STRIKE.

Fed Up Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 01:28 PM EST

Brilliant move, SAG, go on strike and drive the final nail into the coffin of the California entertainment industry. I'm tired of hearing the movie studios and TV networks cry all of the time about diminishing viewership and decreasing revenues, especially when movies and TV shows are batted around schedule-wise to the point that you never know when something is going to hit the theaters or TV screens. The WGA strike was VERY effective in that it put tons of folks out of work (all of the supporting guilds and ancillary industries) and WGA gained zip in the end. Why should the support base pay for this poor decision? And remember, SAG, though you may be technically striking against the AMPTP, you are also striking against your ultimate client base, the viewing public.

Seth Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 10:37 AM EST

Dear Readers.

There is never a good time to STRIKE. There is always a good time to demand fair compensation for your work. Look what happened to the people in this country, who’s
wages never increased. It is an economical disaster. 75% of actors are making less than
$ 3700 a year. Do you think they have houses and mortgages to pay from their acting jobs?
I don’t think so. On the other hand, the STUDIOS just spent on “ANGELS and DEMONS” more than $ 175 millions. Do you know how many films you can make with that money? $40 millions went to TOM HANKS. You know how many actors could be paid with that money? The whole system has to be updated as the work character and circumstances are changing as well.
GO TO STRIKE FOR WHAT IS RIGHT SAG!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Caligal Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 10:12 AM EST

How can you say SAG and WGA are the true work horses of this industry? Next, maybe the REAL workers will strike to get, um, a much deserved and overdue pay raise? I'm talking about the hourly employees who make 25/hr and haven't had a real pay raise in years! Try making a film without a set, a location or any peice of equipment. SAG should be ashamed that they are not talented enough to negotiate a working contract and need to resort to striking while bringing us all down with them.

Andy Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 09:11 AM EST

No, I don't believe actors are greedy bastards and no, I don't support the conglomerate, but I do live in California and so I will NOT be supporting a strike by SAG. We all suffered enough with the last one and this is simply not the time. You'll have the opportunity to hammer it out again in three years. Think of all the people who will be unemployed by this, right here, right now, in the midst of the worst economic crisis in decades. Please!

Midge Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 09:03 AM EST

If you are an unemployed actor then you are just a bad actor with no skill and who will probably never make it so just give it up.
I support SAG and the strike and I am a proud WGA member. SAG and WGA are the true work horses of Hollywood,

Laura Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 08:59 AM EST

The average SAG members make less than 5K a year yet we support a MULTI-BILLION dollar industry. We should at least get a cost of living increase which we have not had in years.

Tomas Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 08:52 AM EST

Yes FINALLY! SAG has the nerve to STRIKE! I am ready to join the ranks of my fellow artisans in support of fair wages! We have been abused and taken advantage of long enough LETS WALK!
If it was not for SAG most of the trades would not be employed or enjoy the rate of pay that they get. Thank You all SAG members for holding the line for fair wages.

JeriKratzhole Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 08:02 AM EST

Let the bastards strike so struggling unemployed actors can finally get a break.

whatever Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 07:22 AM EST

Oh heck no! No strike! There's a petition fighting this. It already has over 1,200 signatures in just 36 HOURS!

Sign!

www.petitiononline.com/DealNow/petition.html

clay Griffith Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 01:59 AM EST

Wow!
are you kidding me? Come on SAG, these are really bad times for us all. You are in a union, and a union means brotherhood. If you guys strike....you will be screwing the rest of the working film community.
Take a breath and re-negotiate the next time around. It is the Holiday season. Please show some goodwill and hope for all of us.

jack Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 12:30 AM EST

Until you give all crew members RESIDUALS you have no right to talk about what's fair.

WGA writer Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 11:52 PM EST

BTW, the Producers have not honored their contract with the writers guild regarding new media. They have simply refused to pay residuals on new media that was part of the contract. SAG was with us, I'll be with SAG.

Proud WGA member.

betty Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 11:51 PM EST

For the industry, for southern california, for the economy, for the real estate market, for the advertising business, for the viewers, for the crews, for the mom and pops places selling muffins for a living to craft service, for the people that sell blueberries to the people that make muffins to the mom and pops stores, etc etc etc... SAG SHOULD NOT STRIKE. Take the deal, figure it out down the road at the next contract nego. SAG is killing the industry by doing this!!

For those of you who say you make 5k in 5 years --- clearly, this isn't your only source of income while for some of the rest of us, it is. ----Imagine if your restaurants shut down because the valets decided to strike because the valets felt they deserved a portion of your tip. You're a dime a dozen and when you set yourself apart from your peers-- you can negotiate your own worth. Don't take the rest of the industry and community down with you. That's just foolish business.

Bobo Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 11:30 PM EST

In the infamous words of Gay Perry (Val Kilmer-Kiss, Kiss, Bang, Bang).....to all you strike supporters...DIE!

kris Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 11:28 PM EST

How can anyone support a strike by SAG? They have effectively said they deserve a better deal than WGA and DGA. They will cripple the town in an already difficult economic time. Actors make their choice to pursue their dreams and the odds of making it are against them and they know that going into it. Not different than musicians, comedians, athletes, etc... for those that eventually crack it -- are made for life if they don't squander their money. This 'new media' issue is not going to help the people who are saying they need a raise and sadly, I don't think they get that. No I cannot support a strike for these people who have and seemingly will let the industry suffer even further and the secondary and outer rim based businesses that the entertainment industry supports --

Alex E Burns Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 11:25 PM EST

As a Teamster member local 399 take the deal for three years then take a strike vote for the new contract. 2011

Leo Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 11:15 PM EST

So...is anyone else aware that only the WGA and SAG strike. The other unions in the movie/TV biz do not. The Director's, IATSE, the Teamsters do not strike but instead negotiate and continue working realizing that a strike by them would result in a negative impact on all the other unions. I'm not saying SAG or the WGA shouldn't get what they want but they would get a lot more support from within if they didn't strike. The DGA and IATSE both re-negotiated this year without striking. I cannot support this strike in good faith knowing that a lot of good people will be out of work without the option of another job.