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'The Hobbit' is a go with Peter Jackson

Dec 18, 2007, 08:11 PM | by Nicole Sperling

Categories: Movie Biz, The Hobbit

Jackson_lIt's back to Middle Earth for Peter Jackson, Fran Walsh, and the boys from New Line. Finally, the years of disputes have ended, and the partners (including co-producer and co-distributor MGM) are gearing up for two new Hobbit movies. EW investigated, talking to the parties behind the negotiations to uncover how everything got resolved, and to get an idea of what viewers can expect of these adaptations of J.R.R. Tolkien's original literary masterpiece. Here's the lowdown:

Jackson and his life/creative partner Walsh have always envisioned the big-screen adaptation of The Hobbit as two movies. The first would deal with the 80-year old novel. The second, imagined entirely by Jackson and Walsh, would link the conclusion of The Hobbit to the start of the first Lord of the Rings book, The Fellowship of the Ring. New Line and Jackson will develop the properties over the next year with hopes of entering into pre-production by 2009 for a 2010 and 2011 release. No writers, including Jackson, Walsh, and their longtime partner Philippa Boyens, have been commissioned. (None can be, because of the strike.)

New Line has already decided that both films will be produced at the same time, in similar fashion to how the LOTR trilogy was put together, and no budgets have been assigned the films yet. According to New Line's co-chair Robert Shaye, "You can't budget an idea."

While MGM and New Line want to keep Jackson's involvement in the film as broad as possible, hinting that he may take up both writing and directing responsibilities, Jackson's manager Ken Kamins told Hollywood Insider that Jackson won't be directing the films. "Peter won't be directing because he felt the fans have waited long enough for The Hobbit. It will take the better part of every day of the next four
years to write, direct and produce two Hobbit films. Given his current obligations to both The Lovely Bones and Tintin, waiting for Peter, Fran, and Phillippa to write, direct and produce The Hobbit would
require the fans wait even longer."

Directors Sam Raimi (Spider-Man), Guillermo del Toro (Pan's Labyrinth), and Alfonso Cuaron (Children of Men) are still the names that come up as alternate possiblities, but no official creative decision has been made.

"There is obviously a small but significant number of directors who could handle two films of this magnitude, but we have no commitment to anybody," Shaye said. "Now that Peter is an integral part of the decision-making process, we all have to see eye-to-eye on any candidate we try to enlist."

Those creative pow-wows are set to begin in early 2008 when New Line plans to sit down with Jackson to hash out critical details. (Jackson will be filming The Lovely Bones through February.)

Neither Jackson’s rep nor New Line will explain how the nasty battle between the two parties got resolved. The fight hit a low point in November 2006 when New Line actually "fired" Jackson from The Hobbit and Jackson took the battle to the LOTR fansite TheOneRing.net, where he posted, “New Line would no longer be requiring our services on The Hobbit.” New Line’s Shaye now calls it, “a misunderstanding that wound up becoming a mini-war.” The two parties began negotiating this June, but it seems MGM’s Harry Sloan served a significant role as a mediator between the two sides.

According to New Line's co-chair Michael Lynne, "Harry served in a mediating function and at a certain sensitive moment he was very helpful." The New Line co-chairs do attest that once Sloan got involved,
the studio was already well down the path of negotiating with Jackson. But Jackson's rep Kamins adds, "Harry, acting in the appropriate self-interest for MGM, used the fact that he owned a piece of the rights to be helpful to both sides in this converstaion. I really credit Harry greatly."

Shaye and company regret how acrimonious things became with Jackson. (In January, Shaye told Sci-Fi Wire website, "I don't care about Peter Jackson anymore. He thinks we owe him something after we've paid him over a quarter of a billion dollars!")

"From my side, I just regret that it happened," said Shaye. "It was a total misunderstanding about what anybody had to gain or lose. I'm extremely glad that the bad blood was just a little infection and not
really a disabling malady."

New Line is quick to point out that The Hobbit resolution is in no way a reaction to disappointing domestic box office numbers for their most recent release, The Golden Compass, which they had hoped would launch a new franchise. "Absolutely not," said Lynne. "This has been in the works for a while now. Golden Compass, by the way, overseas, is performing spectacularly. Obviously, we have been disappointed with its performance here, but I think overall it will do quite well."

Regardless of Compass' performance, the studio now has a new, sure-fire hit to get underway. And even though the lawsuits are settled and the fences are mended, there are still numerous hurdles between this announcement and fans sitting in the theater watching Bilbo Baggins help 13 dwarves reclaim their treasure. First, there is the nasty writer's strike that trudges on; and second, the project's visionary
writer/director/producer has a lot of other projects on his plate. Surely, though, this triumph deserves a little celebration. Will Jackson be planning a bender back in New Zealand?

According to Kamins, not even close. "I haven't even talked to Peter," he said, laughing. "He just got home from Pennsylvania, (where Lovely Bones is filming) last night."

-- Additional writing and reporting by Missy Schwartz and Vanessa Juarez


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kidbt Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 04:39 PM EST

The books are awesome...the movies, not so much. Jackson should have made each book into two movies. Plus, Jackson did a poor job of capturing the essence of middle earth.

Abbie W Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 12:23 PM EST

I am soooooooo excited for the movie, "The Hobbit" to come out!! The books are a must read. Peter Jackson must be working extra hard. Yay, for him!!

Gamgee Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 04:24 AM EST

you know, I'm a Tolkein fan just as much as anyone, even if I haven't read all of his stuff. And I agree that Jackson really created a world that almost everyone who saw it fell in love with.
However.
I'm kind of getting the feeling that we are going to have to accept that he isn't going to wait and direct, and that he isn't going to take over and direct either. stuff happens.
I'm gutted just like everyone else, but hey, lets give a new guy a shot and see what will happen! It isn't blasphemy, and it isn't sacrilege.
lets just see what happens.
plus, wonderful as it may seem, i wonder LOTR just how lucrative your extended Tolkien movie idea would be? Considering how much it would take to produce all of those films...
but it sure would be cool =D

sabine Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 02:24 AM EST

i think that peter should do the hobbit i loved the lord of the rings i am a big fan and love peters work.i am 12 years old and i love his work

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i have a question regarding Gandalf fighting the witch king, due to the fact that Gandalf is more powerful, why does the witch king destroy his staff?

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Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 02:47 PM EST

I'm not watching that movie unless it's made by Jackson period.

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bevans Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 05:23 PM EST

For any true Tolkien fan, there has to be at least two movies that address the Silmarillion, truly the beginning of the world. It is a consistent story that truly lays the foundation for the Rings as well as the Hobbit.

Michael P. Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 09:38 AM EST

I would definitely be willing to wait to get Peter Jackson. I don't want a movie put together faster if it's no good. I hope we get P.Jackson, but I'll bet he's not as thrilled about directing The Hobbit as we fans would like him to be. Huge commitment.

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Richard Gagnon Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 03:01 PM EST

Look guys, we all want Peter Jackson to direct the hobbit duology, actually, why not get the whole LOTR crew back again. But Peter Jackson wants to make other films. He does not want to be stuck doing LOTR type films forever. If Jackson does not have the time to direct the picture, he will hire someone else. I am sure he will find the perfect candidate. For me the perfect candidates for The Hobbit would be; Guillermo Del Torro or Adam Adamson. Actually, Adam Adamson would be my first choice over Guillermo because of the success of the Shrek films & Chronicles of Narnia. Plus, he is a new zealander, so Peter and Adam might become good friends; God only knows. By the way, Adam Adamson is and will be directing the next Narnia pictures in the future, so who knows if he has time. So my good friends, what do you say; Guillermo Del Torro or Adam Adamson!

haxel Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 11:00 AM EST

Peter jackson has to direct the hobbit or it wont be the same.

Steven Phipps Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 10:22 PM EST

As a fan since 1974 I for one am willing to wait for Peter and Fran to direct the Hobbit duology. If Newline and MGM are smart they will do whatever to make this happen. It seems most fans agree with this point of view. A new director is a bad move.

The books and films have been a big part of my 43 year life and I want Peter and Fran to head up the team.

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daz Thu, Jan 24, 2008 at 01:27 PM EST

i would love PJ to direct but it aint guna happen,this i can very begrudgingly accept,put he has to write(along with his partner) or i will be distraught!!!!!

Leafcrown Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 03:36 PM EST

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stewart Sun, Jan 13, 2008 at 09:44 AM EST

I dont see the need for the second movie linking the hobbit and lotr. Not much happened in those 60 years to begin with, and PJ telling us what he thinks happened in Tolkiens world is just wrong. It would be much better to make a movie based on the children of hurin or beren and luthien

stewart Sun, Jan 13, 2008 at 09:43 AM EST

I dont see the need for the second movie linking the hobbit and lotr. Not much happened in those 60 years to begin with, and PJ telling us what he thinks happened in Tolkiens world is just wrong. It would be much better to make a movie based on the children of hurin or beren and luthien

Carla Sat, Jan 12, 2008 at 04:08 PM EST

I can not imagen The Hobbit being directed by anyone else besides Peter Jackson. His dedication to LOTR is testament to his honor and respect of Tolken's work. It is like his Dharma to complete this. Also, Jackson made Tolken fans out of people who have never read the books and encouraged those new fans to read the books and pass it on to their children. Peter, you are the man for the job.

Carla Sat, Jan 12, 2008 at 04:08 PM EST

I can not imagen The Hobbit being directed by anyone else besides Peter Jackson. His dedication to LOTR is testament to his honor and respect of Tolken's work. It is like his Dharma to complete this. Also, Jackson made Tolken fans out of people who have never read the books and encouraged those new fans to read the books and pass it on to their children. Peter, you are the man for the job.

Bryan Parry Mon, Jan 7, 2008 at 11:03 AM EST

What's this rubbish about making the fans wait? Jackson and Walsh are the ONLY people I want to make the Hobbit. I don't care if I have to wait another ten years, so long as a hash isn't made of it.. and Jackson and Walsh means quality. I can wait till they're free.

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Chris B. Sun, Dec 30, 2007 at 02:56 PM EST

The idea of a bridged sequel just seems strange to me... It wouldn't be Tolkiens LOTR, and though I have faith in the imagination of Peter Jackson and co., I might prefer they made two movies of the Hobbit, each depicting roughly half the book. Since it's a single tale, and one bound to be successful, why not make two movies just for the purpose of retaining the entire story. I would like that. There's plenty of story there to work with.

Katherine Sat, Dec 29, 2007 at 09:20 PM EST

Even if this comes out in 2010 I will be approaching 81 years of age- so I'm in a hurry to see work done on it.

Katherine Sat, Dec 29, 2007 at 09:20 PM EST

Even if this comes out in 2010 I will be approaching 81 years of age- so I'm in a hurry to see work done on it.

LOTR Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 01:05 PM EST

The First Age is a totally different period from LOTR, with a different Dark Lord and no rings but Jewels. Its like trying to link Ancient Greece with today, the world has completely changed. I mean its even set in a different land "Beleriand" which sunk beneath the ocean at the end of the first age. Thus it has nothing to do with LOTR and the Second Age would only confuse readers, with Gil-galad and Numenor. The sequel will be a bridge movie, linking the hobbit with fellowship. I suggest that the Silmarillion could potentially one day have a series of films in its own right (like LOTR) but it has very little to do with the actual background of the Lord of the Rings, its ancient history by the Third Age, and so in my POV cannot be used unless its of some historical worth to the characters, like Aragorn receiving the ring of barahir, who was Beren Camlost's father.

smaug Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 07:51 PM EST

Turgin how could you say that the silmarrilion is the only thing that could do justice as the second film when the appendixes and in-between stories were also thought up in Tolkeins head. Yes it would be good to add in silmarillion ideas and stories but there are some things the audience dosnt know about like how arwen and aragorn meet (well most of the non-readers) so no the silmarillions isnt the ONLY thing that could do justace as the second film when there are so many ideads to capture in film and make the audience more clear of The Lord of the Rings and how these things all came together to make The Lord of the Rings like how sauron (the sorrcerer) moves from Mirkwood to Mordor and the birth and life of Frodo. Exactly how does the audience know about Frodo (the non-readers) when all The Hobbit is about Bilbo's story. All of these things will do justce to the story but adding in TO MANY things from the Sil. will confuse people if not being used as a Prelude.

Olorin Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 01:53 PM EST

the films will be just fine, I am sure, with any dedicated and talented director, so long as Jackson maintains some involvment through Production.

Olorin Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 01:51 PM EST

We know of the Fears Elrond, Gandalf, Glorfindel and Galadriel harboured, and we know of how Saruman allayed those fears with half-truths and the power of His Voice, which, according to Unfinished Tales, even the Lord of The Nazgul did not question, whether it fell short of the truth or told half lies. There really is a ton of stuff to go on, a full sckeleton, which a good writer could flesh out fairly easily, especially since some of the flesh, blood and sinew has already been provided.

Trust me, I am not one of the Jackson Fanboys who delusionally thinks no one but Jackson can do anything with any Tolkien work, nor am I one of the amnesiacs who have forgotten that Jackson's film version, while riveting, still had some discernable flaws, and I am NOT talking Bombadil. I mean realistic flaws that could have been better handled without greatly changing the length or scope of the films. But I do applaud Jackson, and I believe that he can do well with a second Hobbit film, though

Olorin Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 01:44 PM EST

To be fair, he really doesn't have to re-write it, he need only fill in some dialogue and action sequences. The story is their. "Some here will remember that many years ago ( 170 exactly)I myself dared to pass the gates of The Necromancer in Dol Guldur, and secretly explored his ways, and discoverd thus that our fears were true. He was none other than Sauron, our enemy of old." Tons of material is revealed in side comments, appendecies, and there is a good deal of dialoge if you look in the Simlarillion and Unfinished Tales, along with a comprehensive timeline. We know that the awakening of The Balrog drove the dwarves out of Moria and the elves out of Lindon in TA 1981. Dain declared to Thrain that The Balrog still held Moria and that "some greater power than that of the Dwarves" would have to come through before dwarves walked again in Khazad Dum. We know where Gandalf found Thrain "witless and wandering" and the news he brought to the council, and how Saruman responded to it.

John Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 10:39 AM EST

Gotta be honest, really worried about a Jackson written "bridge" movie. If they wanna milk this franchise they could have either gone uber in depth and done Hobbit the book in two, or turned to some of Tolkein's other work (just read "Children of Hurin" - excellent). Outside of LOTR Jackson has never made an entertaining movie movie in his career. Certtainly don't like the idea of him re0writing Tolkein.

Fred Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 04:05 AM EST

I am glad to see the Hobbit getting the Peter Jackson treatment. It should be interesting to see how he bridges the gap between Hobbit and Lord of the Rings. However it is given to us by Tolkien himself in the Simarlion, if I am not mistaken. I for one would love to see it received the Peter Jackson treatment too. It should proved to be another box office hit for the studios.

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Olorin Mon, Dec 24, 2007 at 05:36 PM EST

Also, while it takes place roughly 100 years prior to The Hobbit, Gandalf's second visit to Dol Guldur simply MUST appear in the second film. Without it, THe COuncil would never have been moved to attack Dol Guldur in the first place, as there would have been no surety of Sauron's presnce there until he decided to reveal it in his own time.

Olorin Mon, Dec 24, 2007 at 05:30 PM EST

I wish people would stop drinking the cool-aid about no one save Peter being able to direct this. I think it is excellent that he will be involved, but his absence in the directors chair will not mean certain failure. How many of you wouldn't have let PJ approach you on the street before the rings films were made??? How many now avid supporters nearly had paralyzing, horror induced strokes when they heard that the Frightners director was going to helm Tolkien's masterpeices?

And how many of you GROANED, MOANED and WAILED about Arwen at the Ford, or the absence of Gandalf's most forceful displays of magic, or the ommission of Glorfindel, or any of the other 50 huge gripes I heard from many fans for the first couple of years/?? None of you are soothsayers.

It is very possible, and indeed likely, that a Jackson produced Hobbit with someone else directing, will be as excellent as one directed by him. It may even be better, as it will have Jackson's vision, but is less likely to be marred by his peculiar humour, as the demise of Denethor was in LOTR.

LOTR Mon, Dec 24, 2007 at 12:21 PM EST

Hi Smaug,

Amen to that ;)

smaug Sun, Dec 23, 2007 at 11:16 PM EST

Oh ok thats all i need to know =) they would be good movies and i think Jackon will be useing some of the tales from the silmarillions stories because they base the tales of the hoobit and the lord of the rings and most of the rest of them. i did read a little bit of the unfinushed tales and im going to finish them. i think this second movie will be great and he cant make it without the silmarillion and unfinished tales and it probably will be about the appendixes. so yes some stories and seens will be made im sure like the last alliance battle in the beginning of the fellowship of the ring.

LOTR Fri, Dec 21, 2007 at 01:20 PM EST

I think that with a bit of trimming (in terms of time-period), the silmarillion would be really good. Lúthien and Beren would be alive right up into the time of the Fall of Gondolin, and the sons of feanor as well as many of the other characters would be consist throughout all the movies, whether three or five. Why not a new franchise after LOTR? All that need be said is that its set long before LOTR, and apart from that I don't see any need to try and link the two, different periods, different people, different three-five movies.

LOTR Fri, Dec 21, 2007 at 01:04 PM EST

When you think about it, the main tales of the Silmarillion (seen in unfinished tales) would be really good in the cinema. The only dense part is the mythological aspects, but the films need only concern the backstory with Feanor and the jewels.

If LOTR worked, I don't see why a new franchise in three-five parts wouldn't work.

But thats just my POV, cheers!

LOTR Fri, Dec 21, 2007 at 12:54 PM EST

Hi Smaug

Thanks for the reply! Actually I wasn't thinking of linking the Silmarillion to LOTR,but as a totally new franchise of five movies all dealing with the fate of the silmarils. All the best stories (Beren Luthien, tuor etc.) all happen in the same century, so I think that it could really work, there's some great stuff there that would work even better than LOTR on the cinema. The previous bulk of the silm would be told in the intro, leaving only the final chapters, starting from Beren and Luthien.

Ann Fri, Dec 21, 2007 at 09:36 AM EST

The Hobbit and LOTR fans need Jackson and his team other directors are not acceptable, we will wait. I would like to see The Silarillion as a movie. How about another three part movie series done at the same time, it worked quite well for LOTR.

Steve Fri, Dec 21, 2007 at 12:48 AM EST

I am looking forward to any LoTR project involving PJ. To the guy who was talking about re-using Ian Holme as Bilbo: The technology that they use to de-age people has only been used in short scenes in a few movies. While I believe WETA is great at special effects, its a long way from a 5 minute effects shot to de-aging the star of the movie for 3 hours while also shrinking him to 3 feet tall. I think they are going to have to cast a new actor as young Bilbo, especially for all the stunts that he is going to have to do.

Orca Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 09:24 PM EST

"The Hobbit" without The Jackson is like "BtVS" without The Whedon.

Nonethless, Del Toro is the best man from those rumoured to be involved -he has the same horror sensibilities and inventiveness and growing maturity. I'm sure the production values and art direction will still be high, but nonetheless I'm concerned that, with expectations so high, this could be "The Phantom Menace" all over again (eek!)

Re other Tolkien movies to be made, I love JRR as much as the next lit geek but really guys - Hollywood actually needs to make money from these films!

Brandon Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 08:06 PM EST

Thank You, God! The Hobbit is finally comming!

turgon Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 07:42 PM EST

The Silmarrilion has to be used for the gap-bridging movie, it's the only way to stay faithful to what Tolkien intended, otherwise the movie would basically be based on some form of fan-fiction. Plus, as some of the other comments here mentioned, some of the events in it would be awesome to see on screen. I especially think The Downfall of Numenor would be great as a stand-alone movie.

Mark Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 06:42 PM EST

I definitely don't like the idea of a new director. I don't care how long I have to wait, I want Jackson directing.

smaug Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 06:41 PM EST

LOTR yes these would all make great films but lets consider that PJ is not going to direct these and that you might loose the audience in confusion (the people that have only seen the movies) considering all of these would be Pre-sequel film. Intrest would easily be lost. I think The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings and that second film (whatever its going to be) is good enough. The Audience likes seeing most of the same characters in the movies i mean adding in all of these other characters like hurin and huor and tuor and all of this would baffel the audience because they wont see how it is related to Lord of the Rings at all. I love your love of Tolkien but comon! lets be realistic! The silmarillion was great showing the history of middle earth but not many people are intrested of that becoming a movie ecspecially the ones WHO HAVN'T READ THE BOOKS. I dont even think PJ is that intrested in lord of the rings to make anything other then what he has already planned to make.

LOTR Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 04:47 PM EST

Oh I forgot one more beautiful story of Tolkien "The Legend of Amroth and Nimrodel" please see Unfinished Tales and LOTR, its brilliant and would also make a great film...

smaug Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 03:54 PM EST

so. whoever you are, are you saying that Del Toro is a better choice than Pj? make up a name so you know that i'm talking to you. (person who did post: Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 2:46 PM EST)

Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 02:46 PM EST

I could see Del Toro doing a terrific job. What's most important, imho, is to keep Hugo Weaving, McKellan, Tyler, Mortenson, Serkis, Lee, and above all, Ian Holm as Bilbo. And before anyone thinks I'm wrong, and I'm definitely not wrong about this, let me point out that an FX team that can creat the eye candy of LotR can easily tweak these actors to make them look decades younger. The same thing was done in X-men 3 when the opening showed a young McKellan and Patrick Stewart. Same technology made Hannibal look younger in the opening flashback of Red Dragon. Jackson and his crew must write the thing, but to really make it a unified film franchise, for god's sake: Ian Holm as Bilbo! Oh, and one other thing--why can't the Hobbit story simply be told faithfully in two movies with only a bit more Rivendell and Wizard council added--it's an incredibly satisfying and cinematic story on its own. And what a perfect ending. Don't change that by watering it all down.

smaug Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 01:34 PM EST

I think that the hobbit and theother film will be good and most of you do to. Michel Daw has some pretty good points and same with J Mcdhomnail but i just want to say to j that most directors are nothing till they come out with an epic movie that makes them famous but your other points show me that you used your head alot. We need Peter Jackson to be in this film as the director no matter what, yes there are good directors out there but none of them can capture the sight a feel peter jackson did and most people, thatr i have talked to on other EW blogs and most people on this blog beleive PJ should direct the movie. I, personally, think that Pans Labyrinth was a little strange and maybe it was a little to... artistic for my mind to handle and i could'nt really follow what was going on and I think if Pj and the director of Pans Labyrinth were to work together that would be fine but PJ has to be the director to catch the sight and feel he mastered

Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 01:11 PM EST

I'm curious as too whom they are going to choose as Aragorn and Arwen this time around...(for the sequel)

Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 01:06 PM EST

What about the name of the movies?

I think that the title, "The Hobbit" will have to be substituted for something that has to do with the rise of Sauron and the backstory.

The Quest of Erebor, is Tolkien's other name for the hobbit...

Mike Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 01:00 PM EST

Tin-Tin instead of the Hobbit, Peter? Really? REALLY??? Isn't that the opposite of what should be done?

I agree it won't be the same without him, and that Peter Jackson should definitely direct. After watching how Raimi screwed up Venom in SM3 just because he was never a fan of the character, it doesn't bode well for any characters in Hobbit he might not like. At least Peter was always respectful of the material, with any changes designed so that the story was easier to adopt on film or to clarify a little bit more.

I, for one, will be awfully disappointed if Peter doesn't direct.

Antinous Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 12:55 PM EST

I'm not at all worried about a second film. Tolkien wrote vast amounts of prose/notes that didn't make it into The Hobbit or LOTR (or only made the appendices), spawning an apparently eternal cottage industry for his descendants. Why shouldn't I get to see Estel and Arwen plighting their troth on Cerin Amroth, or the White Council driving the Necromancer from Dol Guldur? Have another bowl of mead and relax!

S.D. Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 12:17 PM EST

2 movies should just about do it. I really don't think it's about money, though. The Hobbit (if done correctly) should be better than LOTR. It will take at least 2 movies to go through all of the events: Gandalf recruiting Bilbo, the confrontation with the cave trolls (the ones that turned to stone), the battle with the giant spiders, the battle between the eagles and the orcs/wargs, the battle with Smaug, and the HUGE battle scene at the end. Have I left anything out? There's no way this can be contained within one movie if it is to be done correctly.

luke Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 11:47 AM EST

Hey Tal, what's the big error? I quote "Jackson took the battle to the LOTR fansite TheOneRing.net". Don't be so defensive, and try reading more carefully.

Pelargir1 Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 11:11 AM EST

Completely agree with Megster's statement. PJ's role will be key in the success of the Hobbit movie. I too don't agree on 2 films but it's all about money... Sad. I don't think Tolkien would have approved of this, even with PJ's creative mind. Tolkien is Tolkien.

Megster Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 10:43 AM EST

Still, I think pretty much everyone agrees that these movies CANNOT happen with PJ at the helm, right? I mean, he brought Middle Earth to life, anyone else is just going to screw it up.

Michel Daw Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 10:10 AM EST

Additional Back Story items (continued):
Bilbo Baggins is born.
Aragorn II, descendant of Aranarth first Chieftain of the Dúnedains, is born. His mother calls him Estel ("hope") and sends him to live with Elrond.
Thorin Oakenshield and Gandalf visit Bilbo in the Shire. Bilbo joins the Dwarves' quest to retake the treasures of Erebor. Among his many adventures, Bilbo meets Gollum and finds the One Ring.
Bard of Esgaroth slays Smaug the dragon with the aid of Bilbo. The Battle of the Five Armies—Men, Elves, Dwarves, Goblins, and Eagles— is fought over Smaug's treasure. Thorin Oakenshield dies in battle, and Dain of the Iron Hills becomes King under the mountain. .
The White Council meets again and Saruman, hoping to keep Sauron from finding the One Ring, agrees to attack Dol Guldur. Sauron abandons Dol Guldur.

Michel Daw Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 10:08 AM EST

Additional Back Story items for The Hobbit Movie:
Smaug the Dragon descends on Erebor (the Lonely Mountain) and expels the dwarves. Thror escapes with Thrain II and Thorin II.
While traveling to Erebor, Thrain II (now Dwarf King) is captured and imprisoned by the "Necromancer" in Dol Guldur (fortress in Mirkwood); the last of the Seven Rings of Power belonging to the Dwarves is taken from him.
Gandalf enters Dol Guldur, and confirms his suspicion that the "Necromancer" is Sauron. He learns that Sauron is gathering the Rings and seeking the One Ring. Gandalf also finds Thrain and receives the key of Erebor from him. Thrain dies.
The White Council meets and Gandalf presses for an attack on Dol Guldur. Saruman overrules him and begins to discreetly search for the Ring near the Gladden Fields, where it was lost by Isildur, and later 'found' by Gollum.
The White Tree of Gondor dies and is left standing. No seedling can be found.

Stephen Cant Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 09:32 AM EST

Alot of people are talking about the influence of Peter Jackson, while i'd prefer for him to direct himself, if there is a new director they need their own autonomy or what you'll get is a fractured take on the hobbit and this bridge film. Peter jackson got so much freedom to make lotr and that's why it was so good and the new director needs that too. What Peter can do as producer is make sure that the best props ect are provided for the new director, do alot of the behind the scenes stuff and making sure it's up to quality and provide info on continuity. Honestly Jackson provides these thing just by being the producer because, without lifting a finger, he will provide the same team that made lotr and who bring such a high quality and dedication, especially for these films, to their work.

Shatter24 Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 09:06 AM EST

The most annoying thing is that Jackson is going to do TinTin, a comic strip from overseas using motion-capture craptology, instead of working on the Hobbit as director. I understand he is filming and must complete Lovely Bones, but TinTin can wait or can be handled ably by Spielberg.

If the fight hadn't gotten so nasty back in '06-'07, the commitment to TinTin never would have happenned and Jackson would be in-line to direct this movies.

Once again corporate America getting in the way of artistic expression. Hopefully Jackson can find a good director to replace him and stays involved (including adapting the book).

bill Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 12:49 AM EST

Michael Daw, good stuff!!

bill Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 12:45 AM EST

Nix, a sequel to The HObbit could TOTALLY work. It would have to be done right, but if so, HUGE! Think about it. There IS a lot between The Hobbit and LOTR that happens. And during The Hobbit. Council of the Wise. Sauron returning. Saruman officially going bad. AND finally a chance to see Tom B. Why not? No, it's not text book, but if done right, could be good. The purists will freak. So what.

smaug Wed, Dec 19, 2007 at 10:41 PM EST

Michael daw i like your points and suggestions


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